“Rather, now is the time to move forward with fair and equitable taxation measures to fund the investments in affordable housing, transit, child care and recreation that will ensure that every child has the chance to succeed,” it concludes.

More than 40 per cent of kids in 14 Toronto neighbourhoods — mostly in the inner city or inner suburbs — were living in families below the Low-Income Measure, after taxes, or about $35,600 for a family of two adults and two children under 16 in 2014.

Children whose families are newcomers, racial minorities, living with disabilities or led by single parents are twice as likely to be in low-income households, the report says.

Sounds more like lack of planning, its all immigrants in that community, who don't integrate well. You know exactly what I mean when I say that.

When did extra curricular activities become a necessity for kids?

Would people like that not bet better off living anywhere but the GTA? Minimum wage would go a lot further in a place like St Catharines or Brantford. Housing is cheaper, extra curricular stuff is probably cheaper too. Overall standard of living more affordable. Possibly better schools/programs/smaller classes, etc.

Would people like that not bet better off living anywhere but the GTA? Minimum wage would go a lot further in a place like St Catharines or Brantford. Housing is cheaper, extra curricular stuff is probably cheaper too. Overall standard of living more affordable. Possibly better schools/programs/smaller classes, etc.

Life can shit on you, its not how much shit falls, its how many times you can take a bath and move on. My wife has cousins who still live in rexdale, and cousins who got killed because they got caught up in that guns/gangs trouble. Same influences growing up in rexdale, and yet vastly different outcomes.

Thats exactly what I was going to suggest, but they won't do it, they all want to live together in the community in Toronto, and get support from the gov't.

I used to deliver newspapers to Thorncliffe apts, those apartments were nicer than where I grew up.

/bootstrapped it tho

Rexdale is the shit...literally. Never seen so much fucking scum before.

Yup, my cousin grew up on dawes Road too, /bootstrapped /not white and still succeed.

100% agreed.

Uses one example and applies the same logic to the rest of the population. Do you realize anyone simple being on CSI everyone here has made it. Have this same conversation on JDMR and see how that goes.

Question is why? We are all from different backgrounds and ethnicities, so why do you think we can make it and others can't and need handouts from the gov't.

fuck off with all that. ok, granted if she's sick and unable to work, she's still getting disability from the gobment. husband can't find a better paying job in toronto? nigga please, go pick up a shovel and make some more coin than sitting around being a security guard. if you arn't willing to work a little harder to give your kids better things in life then i don't know what to tell you.

i probably make the least amount here, so you know what i do in order to send my kid to the hardcore russian ran expensive ballet school? i wash flippin cars on my spare time. 0 reason in this day and age why the husband can't get out there and make a bit more money instead of being lazy and wanting other people to pay for it.

Rather, now is the time to move forward with fair and equitable taxation measures to fund the investments in affordable housing, transit, child care and recreation that will ensure that every child has the chance to succeed,” it concludes.

The hell they aren't.



Little jimmy needs to play hockey and have pilates classes to succeed, but I want the gubment to pay for it

That shit is a lavish privilege to do, not some given right, nor should it brought into context of "poverty".

So above you single out the minorities that have just come to Canada, but don't realize that the majority of the people that use the child care and recreation are white non-immigrants.

Waits for you to change your argument for a 3rd time. I see now why Risky just trolls you. This is like your way of humble bragging.

that's relative to certain csi'ers

its like saying a boat, cottage, ~ x00,000+++ k income as middle class

?Population size: 1221 ?Median age: 37.10 ?Average Household Size: 3.62 ?Average Household Income: $169,040 ?Households with Children: 73% ?Households without Children: 27% ?Number of Households: 337 ?Not in the Labour Force: 28%

Yes, but they aren't the ones complaining that they can't afford it. Most non white immigrants in Scaborough just hustle like titty till they can afford it. Its what I did. So why are the muzzies thinking the gov't should provide them the leaside lifestyle on taxpayer dollars.


According to realtor.ca, here are the demographics for my area


You mean that isn't middle class in the GTA, aka both parents making 80k/yr? Both my neighbour across the street and immediately adjacent have cottages, so its probably because we aren't paying Markham / Richman's hill inflated pricing

Yes, but they aren't the ones complaining that they can't afford it. Most non white immigrants in Scaborough just hustle like titty till they can afford it. Its what I did. So why are the muzzies thinking the gov't should provide them the leaside lifestyle on taxpayer dollars.


According to realtor.ca, here are the demographics for my area


You mean that isn't middle class in the GTA, aka both parents making 80k/yr? Both my neighbour across the street and immediately adjacent have cottages, so its probably because we aren't paying Markham / Richman's hill inflated pricing

IMO, thats more "upper middle class".

I still think 100k combined would be middle class, assuming you are not a "new" family looking to buy a new home. I'm assuming that most people in the GTA bought their homes a while ago when prices were somewhat reasonable.

Since when is a person from Pakistan = Muslim? It's like you get all your information from TV & newspapers. It's EXACTLY white non-immigrants complaining they want that lifestyle & that all the immigrants are taking the jobs/working for cheaper than that particular industry calls for. You're so out of touch with reality.


Middle class tings doe.


Side note good to know that your area in which you bought has that household income, but you and I both know you clear that figure easy. I don't understand why you don't just own it instead of coming down on everyone beneath you because bootstraps.


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Since when is a person from Pakistan = Muslim? It's like you get all your information from TV & newspapers. It's EXACTLY white non-immigrants complaining they want that lifestyle & that all the immigrants are taking the jobs/working for cheaper than that particular industry calls for. You're so out of touch with reality.


Middle class tings doe.


Side note good to know that your area in which you bought has that household income, but you and I both know you clear that figure easy. I don't understand why you don't just own it instead of coming down on everyone beneath you because bootstraps.


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The state religion in Pakistan is Islam, which is practiced by about 95–98%of the 195,343,000[2][3] people of the nation.

damn look at that humble brag LOL, 170k household income.



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oh stop trolling and fuck yourself.

you got my point. - like i said "relative"

you are so cool in this forum.

can i have your autograph?

It's EXACTLY white non-immigrants complaining they want that lifestyle & that all the immigrants are taking the jobs/working for cheaper than that particular industry calls for. You're so out of touch with reality.

I'll make this easy for ya bro. if it is non-immigrant white ppl wanting the gobment to pay for their kids shit, then fuck them too. if you can't provide for your own kid(s) and nothing is wrong with you then you're just pure waste.

alot of people these days hustle because of cost of living for a certain type of life style. one of my cousins does bridal and whatever makeup for women on the side and her and her husband make good coin. they are both full time employed and have to work extra so why can't they? this province needs to put their foot down on half this nonsense.

i did the math. if that lazy ass of a husband (or anyone else for that matter) from the article worked 1 8hr shift at mc.donalds (min.wage = $11.40/hr) thats two shifts per pay period, x2 for the month, that's $364 before tax. you mean to tell me that's not enough to put your kid in some kind of class once a week?

Salma Jabeen would love to enrol her 4-year-old daughter in taekwondo or gymnastics

Life can shit on you, its not how much shit falls, its how many times you can take a bath and move on. My wife has cousins who still live in rexdale, and cousins who got killed because they got caught up in that guns/gangs trouble. Same influences growing up in rexdale, and yet vastly different outcomes.

Thats exactly what I was going to suggest, but they won't do it, they all want to live together in the community in Toronto, and get support from the gov't.

I worked at Don Mills and Eglinton from 2002 - 2007, first hand experience. My sister lived in the apartment buildings just across the bridge in thorncliff, but news papers and TV right......



Here is a direct quote from Wikipedia


Not Muslim eh?

Psssh, would you like me to post your area?

Its all relative though, Risky makes more than me, and so do a lot of people on here. I won't name names, you know who they are. The only difference is I am old so I have had more time to buy shit ;). So yes, relative to GTA income, I'm middle class. Not earning a doctor's or lawyers salary, its exactly like Ed says, its probably upper middle class

Like you I feel the same way sort of, but CSI isn't representative of the population at hand. Like not even close. It's not always as easy as bootstraps.

People all have various health issues. Hell my close friend comes from money, hustles everyday, has had his own pub, his dad lives in Columbia (he's white), his close circle is all in fluent rich people, but he has so many health issues none that he had any control over so he spends all his money on surgeries etc. Tell me about how he should plan better etc etc. Other people I've watched take care of their parents because said parents chose to wait until their late 30's to have a kid, well guess what that aging parent instill proper morals, respect etc into said child, but I guess they should of "planned" better right? Saved more money of a rainy day, right. It's not that simple. Like the fact that I even have to explain this shows you guys are disconnected. Does a car, cottage or boat really compare? You talking about programs that are already IN PLACE since we've been born and now that you've "made it" everyone else that's on the way up should get fucked. Like wow, they're simply adjusting for inflation like everything else in this shit hole.

How did I say get fucked? I said programs that truly address poverty I ZERO issues with, but when people start bitching about clearly optional activities that they cannot afford and want the tax payer to pay for their kids, fuck em.


Really, you think people should be taxed even more to pay for this?

nah man, we arn't talking about people with health issues because that represents like 2% of the population. i'm talking about people (like the husband in the article) who are damn well fit, and able to work, but don't. the lady is talking about how she would love to enroll her child into gymnastics and taekwondo? there is NOTHING stopping her husband from doing that on their damn own; instead of playing sob story for the newspapers looking for a handout.

And yet all the immigrants on here agree with me, because they all bootstrapped. It has nothing to do with age group either, Risky, titty and Axster are all in the generation that got affected by '08. They aren't my generation

The key word in common here is bootstraps, whether you choose to believe it or not. Look at Risky, bought his house after the '08 crash and is now a Markham millionaire You too, you've told me yourself how much equity you've built up, and how you made the right decisions because of upbringing, so I am not sure how you are factoring that out of the equation.

Dude CSI is a niche bunch, how do you not know this. So were suppose to judge people and the rest of the population based on what we as a group have accomplished? Well damn.

Post the rest of that line. She clearly says her daughter doesn't understand why they can't afford it. Not that she wants tax payers to pay for it. You really need to read between the lines. It's an article in a newspaper trying to sell papers.

Come on, why is it a story if she's not asking for a handout, and all those child poverty advocates talking about more taxation etc....
Read between the lines

You keep saying that, but it really isn't true, the only thing we had in common is a love of Hondas, we are all from different backgrounds, some from money and most not.

Lets look at titty, both you and I used to talk sense into him to save his money, invest etc. Look at him now, granted he had some help, but if that isn't bootstrapping and hustling, I don't know what is. Its not like life didn't shit on him either with his divorce, but he just worked twice as hard with the detailing business and coral

Yes, my friends from birth are well off, my best friend all through highschool has his PhD, infact almost all of the crew are lawyers, engineers, doctors, or specialist in their field. I was a nerd

Lets look at Toronto Integras, people left when they no longer owned the car, not because they were poor. Look at OT, people come back years later. I never really posted on the other boards, I was out of the scene by the time JDMR came around, and I never owned a civic :D. Knob hill farms I had no friends there, it was a hustle to help pay the bills, even though it was $6.70/hr (minimum wage), working from 5PM till 1 or 2 PM restocking shelves, and then going to classes the next morning at 8.

Oh, yeah, those bootstraps, but you are going to say it can't be done. Asxter is younger than you, and probably the most successful of all of us, seems to me like bootstraps still work.
Jeff same age group, Risky same age group, 4age and 4three, same age group, dennis (HyperS2k) same age group.
Hell, look at Glenn who just popped back in, sold his business in Ontario and moved out to Alberta and bootstrapped it

so much trolling.. more people added to ignore list.. this place is turning to shit

damn look at that humble brag LOL, 170k household income.



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