#5906159 - 11/03/11 03:10 PM
Re: Four weeks progress...
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dirtyS13drifta
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If I go to 1000-1100 per day, I don't think I can still meet the protein needs. As is with 1500 calories I get about 145g of protein per day.
I usually do take a day or two (usually Saturday and/or Sunday) where I am not as strict with my diet, I'll have one "bad" meal.
Just my severely limited opinion...
But what are you actuall doing when you work out?
If you can run 50 @ 5 miles, get off the damn eliptical. If your body can take the impact elipticals are normally a way to slack. Get your heart rate up. And if you can do 50@5mph, push yourself to get faster. 12 minute miles aren't exactly going to melt the fat off. Sure slow and steady eats calories up, but if you can get your heart rate up you'll have longer burn. The goal should be something like 1 hour at about 7+mph. There's no reason a 30 y/o @ sub 190 shouldn't be able to work towards that. Start by doing 5-10minutes at a time at 6mph, and alternate. Even soft intervals will get your cardio system more active.
Oh and get a plan on weights. I'll admit I'm no expert here, but I've always had a plan at least.
Honestly I think you're not pushing yourself enough.
That said, 8 weeks still isn't that long. But for how few calories your on I would have expected to see more results that a 1/2 inch in your belly and no weight loss.
How much are you "cheating" on weekends and the bad meal? Is the one "bad" meal 1200 calories? I've never been a dieter, but it seem everyone I know with diet problems cheats too much.
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#5906591 - 11/03/11 05:47 PM
Re: Four weeks progress...
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did you just eat 40oz of chicken all day or what?
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#5907205 - 11/03/11 11:03 PM
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But what are you actuall doing when you work out?
If you can run 50 @ 5 miles, get off the damn eliptical. If your body can take the impact elipticals are normally a way to slack.
I haven't done the elliptical or treadmill in a while...my most recent workouts consist of lifting weights on M-W-F and hiking on T-TH. The hiking is 3.5 miles with an elevation change of 800 ft and I do it in an hour.
Honestly I think you're not pushing yourself enough.
That said, 8 weeks still isn't that long. But for how few calories your on I would have expected to see more results that a 1/2 inch in your belly and no weight loss.
It is true, I could definitely push myself a lot more and do cardio that is a lot more effective than hiking, such as running (my heart rate monitor says I burn about 700 calories when I run for an hour vs 450 calories for hiking) but I absolutely *hate* running...I mean hate it the first minute into the hour run and I've found I need to like what I'm doing if I actually want to be consistent. I've tried running and after a week or two, I just stop going. I'm comfortable with the idea that it will 6+ months to get where I want vs 3 months that it could take.
How much are you "cheating" on weekends and the bad meal? Is the one "bad" meal 1200 calories?
Depends, for example on Saturday I did well all day bit for dinner I had a NY Strip steak with cornbread and grilled veggies, it was awesome. 
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#5907255 - 11/03/11 11:40 PM
Re: Four weeks progress...
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did you just eat 40oz of chicken all day or what?
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#5907575 - 11/04/11 07:56 AM
Re: Four weeks progress...
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did you just eat 40oz of chicken all day or what? not the diet for you... you arent looking to lose and if you had that kind of high protein diet youd gas so fast out on the ice you wouldnt even know which way was up.
HX: For example....
Had a shake this morning
120cals, 23Gs
Lunch I had 12oz of lean chcien breast
330cals, 75Gs
Snack I'll have a shake. I'll blend it in the bullet with ice/water and then add trail mix
230cals, 30Gs
Dinner I'll usually 12oz of chicken @ 330cals, 75G's...but this Fri so I'll likely hit up some wings or something. Who knows.
Bedtime shake
120cals, 23G's
Under 1200 cals for the day and well over 200Gs. Although I sucked at eating between 9-4 like I like to...
Personally I'm only doing this for a week to get my weight back in line and then back to eating a little heavier through Xmas....
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#5913912 - 11/07/11 02:33 PM
Re: Four weeks progress...
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did you just eat 40oz of chicken all day or what? not the diet for you... you arent looking to lose and if you had that kind of high protein diet youd gas so fast out on the ice you wouldnt even know which way was up.
Yeah I wasn't asking with regard to possible diet for myself, I was just trying to do the math and figure out if that was basically all he ate all day. I know I need carbs and calories for my goals.
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#5915102 - 11/07/11 10:45 PM
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#5915208 - 11/08/11 12:00 AM
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#5916194 - 11/08/11 12:48 PM
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If you refuse to run, at least go bike riding or play a sport. I'm a fan of doing more than just light cardio - though it's not necessary. It's just nice to be in shape.
As for bread, buy some good multigrain bread or flax bread. 100 calories per slice, 5-6 grams of protien, 5 grams of fibre. Just have a slice with lunch/dinner and limit it to that.
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#5916969 - 11/08/11 06:53 PM
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#5917447 - 11/08/11 09:53 PM
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Have to agree.
We might be more hardcore than most here, but certainly jogging/biking isn't that hard. You just have to open the door and go. If it gets tough, take a breather, reload and go.
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#5917479 - 11/08/11 10:08 PM
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Why not the Weight control (Fitness/Fat burn) zone? With the hiking, wearing my heart rate monitor, I average 125 bpm over 50 minutes with a max of 160 bpm.
Average 185 for an hour or two. You'll lose weight. Also, I'll add that "weight control" has a hidden meaning: "don't get anymore fat but don't lose anything either" And if you're doing that you're lucky. This is why you see fat people on ellipticals. It's easy and doesn't do much. /uneducated opinion on all this garbage.
To be honest, you sound like Prog. Just making excuses and seeing shit results. Work hard, do shit you don't like because it actually pays off. And who knows, maybe you'll come to love running. I hated HATED running at one point in my life. Now I love it.
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#5917491 - 11/08/11 10:14 PM
Re: Four weeks progress...
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The zone thing is fucking retarded. Agreed...ditch the heart rate monitor! By anaerobic I'm simply saying you need to get your body to the point of where your heart is beating fast and you're sucking wind. OB1 is right....you're overthinking it. Get out there and make yourself suffer...it's he only way.
Yep, Just fucking workout hard.
If you need a heart rate monitor to tell you what hard is, fine get oone.
But basically you're in the lower regions of your fancy chart. Sure you're burning some calories while your on the machine. But you're not making yourself fitter. If you push yourself you'll burn a ton of calories even after your workout.
Or if you're going to be a pussy, up your time on "cardio". Not many people stay fat at anything over 20 miles a week on their feet(some elipticals count both part of the revolution though, one more reason they're bullshit).
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#5917500 - 11/08/11 10:19 PM
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#5917523 - 11/08/11 10:28 PM
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You guys are more hardcore than most on here and while I agree with you in principle, what I've learned about myself over years and years is that I do better at a slower pace than at a faster pace because I simply don't do it. I know I should, but I hate it and end up giving up. I just work better if I can do something I like at least somewhat and it takes 6 months to do vs doing something I hate and doing it in 3 months. I'll be upfront and I know you guys will do a  but as I type this, I'm on the elliptical and my heart rate is at 132 bpm but I don't hate it. Sure I could be on the treadmill and be at 158 bpm but I would do that for about two days and stop, I've tried it.
Can you do treadmill at a slower pace to get you used to it?
Even as a runner, if I'm more than 1-2 weeks off of running I find my first few runs awkward and tiring. All of the sudden it clicks again.
Can you run once a week as a challenge to yourself? Shit sign up for a spring 5k race. It's only 3 miles and you'll have to get yourself ready for it.
And if you refuse to run, got harder on the elliptical. Do some intervals once a week or something. On the other days, go longer.
I mean you've admitted your not committed to results, fine. But for your health you still need to push yourself. Also, consider a trainer. Some people just need that extrinsic motivation.
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