#602978 - 10/25/06 12:24 PM
Pictures of my new daily driver, a Pontiac G5 GT
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90TGP
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I just picked up my new black/ebony leather G5 GT on Monday night. It's the sister car to the Chevy Cobalt SS [non-supercharged model]. I got it fully loaded for just a hair over $22k out the door. I got the heated leather seats, sunroof, Pioneer 7-speaker stereo, 6-disc in-dash cd-player, side curtain airbags, free 1-year of OnStar, free 3-months of XM radio, foglights, and the remote start. I love this car, it's leaps and bounds beyond the Sunfire/Cavalier it replaced. It drives really smooth and has good power with the 2.4 Ecotec. I can easily pass on the highways, and merge in traffic. It handle really good, and takes bumps and potholes no problem. Gives great space in the cockpit, I even had to move my seat up. Lots of trunk space. Gets pretty good gas milage, 25city and 32highway. All around great car, and I'm glad I got it over any other car in it's price/power range. And I'm loving the free 3-months of XM radio.
Now for the pictures. Excuse the mess, it rained and snowed for the past couple of days here in Ohio.
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#602982 - 10/25/06 12:54 PM
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90TGP
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$6k less gets you the base model with the 148hp 2.2 Ecotec and hardly any options [like heated seats, mp3 cd-player, ect]. The 2.4 Ecotec has 173hp/163tq compared to the 2.2. I would have gotten the 5-speed, but I have a history of foot pain in my left foot from time to time, and it would be hard to drive a stick with that.
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#602991 - 10/25/06 02:41 PM
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Z24 lol
and Fuck you for the new name lol
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Complete Rip-off. So much better car out there for that money. Good luck with getting <10k for it next year lol
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#602994 - 10/25/06 04:26 PM
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90TGP
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I don't know why people are so uptight about resale values. Not everyone buys a car just to turn around and sell it next year. Some people do keep cars longer then 5 years.
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#602996 - 10/25/06 04:39 PM
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JasonY
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Why did you choose this over an si(or any other car in that price range) again?
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#602998 - 10/25/06 04:59 PM
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Z24 lol
and Fuck you for the new name lol
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I don't know why people are so uptight about resale values. Not everyone buys a car just to turn around and sell it next year. Some people do keep cars longer then 5 years.
Ive had my celica for 5yrs(now paid off woot) and my Spec-v for 4yrs, so i dont sell my cars every few years. But when you buy a GM, you arent exactly buying a quality care(granted the colbalt/G5 maybe better than the Jbody), but 22k for what you got in that car is a COMPLETE ripoff.
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#603002 - 10/25/06 07:17 PM
Re: Pictures of my new daily driver, a Pontiac G5 GT
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tylerdurden
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Yes, that's MS6 territory if you look around. Also saw WRX TR's down the street from me for $21K flat no-haggle sticker price. Really tempting if it weren't for the retardedly small back seat.
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#603007 - 10/25/06 08:46 PM
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DJ_SI
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Wow dude, i normally don't question peoples car purchases but 22K for THAT?? I was hoping you meant canadian dollars.  Bro, for 20K+ there are much better options out there.
I will admit though, the car looks good.
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#603008 - 10/25/06 09:16 PM
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Turbo2OVJetta
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I got my Saabaru for under $20,000... if I wanted leather and a sun roof it would have been closer to $21,000-$22,000 but still. What a freaking rip off! That being said, it isn't a bad looking car. I just think a price around $18,000-$19,000 would be more like it.
Here is a Cobalt SS supercharged for just over $21,000:
http://www.fitzmall.com/carfind/resultsb...&mk_code=CV
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Yes, that's MS6 territory if you look around. Also saw WRX TR's down the street from me for $21K flat no-haggle sticker price. Really tempting if it weren't for the retardedly small back seat.
Bigger than a Mk4 Jetta's back seat.
I can fit a child seat behind me (with less than an inch to spare and I am 6 feet tall). I can also fit back there. So while it is small, I would not call it retardedly small.
Here are some pics:
http://www.saab92x.com/viewtopic.php?id=8740
Edited by Turbo2OVJetta (10/25/06 09:53 PM)
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#603010 - 10/25/06 09:19 PM
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CrazeD
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That's how much cars cost these days. My friend just picked up a new Civic for his son. The fuckin thing cost came out to over $23k.
New cars ftl.
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#603011 - 10/25/06 09:59 PM
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EQPlayer
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I picked up my 06 Cobalt SS non-SC 5-speed for 17,200 out the door, or about 16,500 before tax/tag/title/etc... Granted, it's cloth seats, 5-speed, no XM, no Pioneer, but that's not worth an extra 6k... 
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#603012 - 10/25/06 11:36 PM
Re: Pictures of my new daily driver, a Pontiac G5 GT
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tylerdurden
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My brother has a MKIV, it has an atrocious backseat. Worse than the WRX, but it doesn't make the WRX any better. Why give it a backseat only to have it be a penalty box? It's no bigger than an RX8, which is much better packaged. A sedan with sucky backseats makes no sense IMO. IIRC I'd prefer a Civic hatch or Focus hatch backseat for room to the Jetta and WRX.
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#603014 - 10/26/06 12:44 AM
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Chazmanian
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Registered: 10/16/06
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Loc: colorado springs colorado usa
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Guy makes up his mind to "Help-Out" the General.....And takes the time to share photos and pricing, and gets "Ridiculed"?
Maybe his justafication was that.
A.He got Heated Leather
B.Cool Wheels
C.An Automatic
D.XM radio
E.A Wing
F. His Own sense Of Pride In Ownership.
If you read his post he says 22K OUT THE DOOR.(Thats After Tax In My Book)
So he payed apprx $20500.00 For this car....Right?
How much would he pay for say an 07' Base model Civic SI?
More than that right?
Would he get Leather?
Or an Automatic?
For 22K OUT THE DOOR?
So maybe we all wouldnt pick this car...
Maybe I wouldnt pick this car....
But my local Honda dealer has an 07' Civic EX with an Automatic....Its over 20K
Did he really do that bad?
And maybe he likes Pontiacs?
First time I've ever seen one of those.....
That thing would actually be HOT with the SC and a Stick Shifter.
And with his injured foot and desire for better fuel economy?
To him that car is hot!
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#603015 - 10/26/06 04:22 AM
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SlowKA
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Wow..that actualy looks pretty sweet,congrats.
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#603016 - 10/26/06 07:27 AM
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90TGP
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Thank you Chazmanian and everyone else that didn't ridicule my car.
1. I like Pontiac's.
2. I don't like Volkswagen's, other then a 1stgen GTI. I think they're all overpriced girls cars. Especially when it comes to aftermarket parts and maintenance.
3. You guys try driving a stick with foot pains.
4. I don't like the look of the new Civic's other then the Si model. But the Si is over 22k.
5. 22k was OUT THE DOOR price. After taxes, title, and all of those other fees you have to pay.
6. The 2.4l Ecotec makes something a lot of other imports don't, torque. 163ft/lbs of it.
7. I don't have a need to buy a large car like a Maxima, or the money.
8. Not a big fan of the WRX, except for the STi model, and I'm sure that's over 22k new.
9. How many other cars can you get FULLY LOADED for under 22k?
10. I like my new car, it's not fast, but I have my Firebird Formula if I want to drive fast.
11. I think the Mazda 3 is ugly and I didn't want a station wagon. I could have gotten a new Vibe AWD that gets 30mpg city if I wanted a wagon.
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#603017 - 10/26/06 07:35 AM
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tropicana
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Holy crap.......you got raped. When I first I thought you paid $22k Canadian....... and even that's still pretty high 
Woah there. That car would have been around 27k Candian.
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#603018 - 10/26/06 08:06 AM
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NHRATA01
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I don't take issue with your purchase.
I do have to say though, at least with the old JBodies there was quite a number of differences in appearance between the Chebby and Pontiac. With the Cobalt/GS, they're carbon copies save for the grill and badging. GM didn't even try...
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#603019 - 10/26/06 09:56 AM
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Z24 lol
and Fuck you for the new name lol
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Thank you Chazmanian and everyone else that didn't ridicule my car.
1. I like Pontiac's.
2. I don't like Volkswagen's, other then a 1stgen GTI. I think they're all overpriced girls cars. Especially when it comes to aftermarket parts and maintenance.
3. You guys try driving a stick with foot pains.
4. I don't like the look of the new Civic's other then the Si model. But the Si is over 22k.
5. 22k was OUT THE DOOR price. After taxes, title, and all of those other fees you have to pay.
6. The 2.4l Ecotec makes something a lot of other imports don't, torque. 163ft/lbs of it.
7. I don't have a need to buy a large car like a Maxima, or the money.
8. Not a big fan of the WRX, except for the STi model, and I'm sure that's over 22k new.
9. How many other cars can you get FULLY LOADED for under 22k?
10. I like my new car, it's not fast, but I have my Firebird Formula if I want to drive fast.
11. I think the Mazda 3 is ugly and I didn't want a station wagon. I could have gotten a new Vibe AWD that gets 30mpg city if I wanted a wagon.
1. GM is glad at least 1 person does
2. Goodluck finding aftermarket for a NON-LSX GM
3. ALot of cars come in automatic now, that are better than that
4. New Civic is overpriced also, Honda just finally realized they can capitalize on fanboys
5. alot better car than that, its called HAGGLING, obviously something you dont know how to do.
6. wow torque.. whoopy i make more torque than you so ha. other imports seem to do fine with less torque.. oh wait thats cuz they have better gearing than most NA counterparts.
7. you just paid 22 fucking K for a near bottom line GM model. You couldve gotten alot better car for that amount.
8. ok
9. see #7
10. thats good see #1
11. pssst the vibe is actually a Toyota Matrix.
12. Your still a dumbass for paying 22k for that car.
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#603021 - 10/26/06 01:56 PM
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Anonymous
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Well, congrats on a new car purchase.
I have a zero options cobalt LS, but I didn't pay near what you did either.
To be honest I'm not sure I'd pay that much for the SC model, after having owned the car for 3 months. It's not a bad car at all, but you'd probably have all the torque and what not you'd need with a 2.2L 5 speed.
Different strokes for different folks, hope you like the car!
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#603024 - 10/26/06 03:57 PM
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nohondahere
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Congrats on getting the car you wanted. If you are willing to pay X number of dollars, then the price doesn't matter. Bang for the buck doesn't matter either.
It sickens me when somebody wants to share something they are happy about and people roll in with their import fanboi and better-than-thou mentality and rips people apart for buying "dumbestic" "crappy GM" cars, complains that it isn't the fastest or best handling car for the money etc and when performance doesn't matter, they become metrosexual dashboard rapists. They should be happy you found something you like and wanted to tell about it.
FWIW last time I priced a new GTI it came to about 27k and a new Si was north of 25k
For a daily driver, the pontiac costs less, the ecotec is a nice engine and the parts to maintain it would be cheaper than the competition.
even my 98 GTI was about 25k new.
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#603026 - 10/27/06 12:00 AM
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Chazmanian
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Can anyone post a photo of a brand new 2 door "GT" anything with..
Leather.
Automatic
Nice Rims.
XM Radio
Wing
For the $20,500 he paid for that car?
His 22K statement was out the door right?
Using 7% which is the typical sales tax rate. He paid 20.5K Pre-Tax.
Can anyone think of a new car with those options, In fairly legit GT mode due to having more than 125HP.....
With Wheels and an Automatic and Leather?
And Y'all are bashing the guy?
I thought this was a SI Vs All forum?
Maybe a good response to this thread would be to.
A.Post a photo of your car
B.Post how much it cost you
C.Prepare to be Bashed and spat on regardless of what you bought or paid for it.
Yes?
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#603027 - 10/27/06 12:08 AM
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Z24 lol
and Fuck you for the new name lol
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Easy, RSX Auto. Much better car. Im sure i can get one with what he has if not more for the same price out the door.
Edit: and obviously you havent been in SVA for awhile since you would alreayd know this is a normal response for someone who paid more than what the car is worth
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#603028 - 10/27/06 12:09 AM
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stickaz_old
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How important is the OE wing or is that pretty much a deal-breaker?
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#603029 - 10/27/06 12:13 AM
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Z24 lol
and Fuck you for the new name lol
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How important is the OE wing or is that pretty much a deal-breaker?
well the wing will make the car faster, or is that an 06 si feature only?
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#603030 - 10/27/06 12:17 AM
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ResisterGo
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well the wing will make the car faster, or is that an 06 si feature only?
Well, the wing helps... but the main factor is the rake of the windshield. The new Si has a vastly superior windshield rake that totally pwns the G5's.
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#603031 - 10/27/06 12:36 AM
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stickaz_old
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You can get an '06 nudstain GT for 22k + TTL, that's close enough to literally cry yourself to sleep, IMHO.
I know because I was talking to dealers in my area about it around a month ago.
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#603034 - 10/27/06 01:17 AM
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CrazeD
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+1 for RSX auto
Scion TC. 160hp/155-160tq stock. Pretty sure its a 2.4. You might even be able to get one with the TRD supercharger for less than $22k out the door.
No you wont.
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#603035 - 10/27/06 06:59 AM
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SEANSE-R
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Can anyone post a photo of a brand new 2 door "GT" anything with..
Leather.
Automatic
Nice Rims.
XM Radio
Wing
For the $20,500 he paid for that car?
His 22K statement was out the door right?
Using 7% which is the typical sales tax rate. He paid 20.5K Pre-Tax.
Can anyone think of a new car with those options, In fairly legit GT mode due to having more than 125HP.....
With Wheels and an Automatic and Leather?
And Y'all are bashing the guy?
I thought this was a SI Vs All forum?
Maybe a good response to this thread would be to.
A.Post a photo of your car
B.Post how much it cost you
C.Prepare to be Bashed and spat on regardless of what you bought or paid for it.
Yes?
Thats not that hard. A mazda3 s grand touring with a auto is 21k msrp. It could easily be had for less than 20k.
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#603036 - 10/27/06 07:11 AM
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SEANSE-R
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FWIW last time I priced a new GTI it came to about 27k and a new Si was north of 25k
even my 98 GTI was about 25k new.
All of the above=  Sure you can tart up a GTI to 27k. Why would you though? With all the options a fucking Mini is 60k! Does anyone buy one like that though?
A 98 GTI wasn't 25k either. Maybe 22k if you were dumb enough to pay full sticker. My 97 GTI loaded stickered 20,990
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#603037 - 10/27/06 07:15 AM
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Anonymous
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the new Sunfire.
Not hardly.
I've driven cavs and sunfires, and having driven and now owning the cobalt, I can say these vehicles are head and shoulders above the J-bodies. When I test drove the cobalt, I honestly expected to be turned off by the lack of build quality inherent to the J's. But honestly the quality of the build of the car is amazing, head and shoulders above the cav/sunfire twins. I'd dare say it was as well put together as a few toyotas/hondas that i've driven 
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#603038 - 10/27/06 07:33 AM
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Chazmanian
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Registered: 10/16/06
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Loc: colorado springs colorado usa
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Can anyone post a photo of a brand new 2 door "GT" anything with..
Leather.
Automatic
Nice Rims.
XM Radio
Wing
For the $20,500 he paid for that car?
I listed about 5 in my post, nice job ignoring it though to back the new Sunfire.
Also, nice job twisting 22k out the door to 20,500. The price of the cars I buy "out the door" is car's price.
And don't pretend like adding up lame options in some shit combo makes it a good buy. OMG he got an automatic with XM radio and DEXCOOL! Find some other car to do that for 20,500 minus 1500 but the 1500 doesn't count.
I didnt recall seeing any post where anyone including yourself put up "Five"? cars brand new with leather, Automatic, XM radio, Wing and wheels.
Acura RSX with same options:
Total as Configured: $23,364.00*
Destination: $670.00
16" Machined Finished 7-Spoke Aluminum Alloy Wheel $860.00
Rear Wing Spoiler $359.00
*Prices shown do not include taxes, license, and registration. Actual cost may vary. Dealers set their own prices.
MSRP excluding tax, license, registration, $670.00 destination charge and options. Dealer prices may vary.
Ummmmm. Little higher than 22K out the door.
Scion:
Pushing 20K "Sans" the leather but close...Very Close.
The point I'm trying to make is that its not so easy to find a car with those options in that price range.
Post your whatever it is and it would be just as easy if not easier to attack and ridicule.
Take some pictures of your ride along with what you paid for it out the door....
See if you dont catch some "Heat"
Look I drive a 2006 TRD Tacoma Sport 4x4. I'm not in any way shape or form ashamed of my truck or what I paid for it.
Damned site wont let me post photos...WTF?
$28,300 Out the "Door". I'm in the market for a small "Sporty"? car to replace my wifeys 5 year old BMW.
And no she dosent want a Subaroo-Forrester. Or a Pontiac G5. Or the soon to be discontinued RSX.
Both of which are great choices...To somebody at some point in their car buying lives!
It will probably be a new Civic SI or god forbid the GTI she has begun "Lobbying" for.
Whatever it is I'm sure someone on this forum could.
A.Do way Better
B.Save way more money
C.Go so very much faster
D.Get way more chicks in the process
E.Sleep so much better at night due to their "Enhanced" car buying skills.
F.Get way more compliments in assorted Burger King and Wal-Mart parking lots.
Right?
In a perfect world would we all just be issued 4 door Corolla's? You could pick Black or White. If you are over 40 or have a disability you are eligable for an automatic tranny?
You drive it for 220K and turn it in at which time the entire vehicle is recycled and prepared to begin life anew?
We live in a far from perfect world...Thats why they build Subaroo Forresters and god help us now Pontiac G5's.
Go figure Huh?
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#603039 - 10/27/06 09:36 AM
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Z24 lol
and Fuck you for the new name lol
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So i guess we are not allowed to haggle the prices with the dealer because the OP didnt?
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#603040 - 10/27/06 10:06 AM
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FCobra94
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Can anyone post a photo of a brand new 2 door "GT" anything with..
Leather.
Automatic
Nice Rims.
XM Radio
Wing
Why do you keep pointing out these crappy features like it's some kind of revolution that GM introduced them as an option to their base model vehicle? Furthermore, "cool" wheels and a wing on a Pontiac are nothing to get tight-in-the-pants over, you dolt!
That stuff comes standard on most cars these days and for well under ~$22K OTD. I mean, fuck...even a used LGT is like 3 trillion times better than that heap and it comes with all those "deal braking" features you keep mentioning + Navi. Not a 2 door, but granted, all this bitching about rear seat room might as well lead you to buy something with more doors.
It's not like he's making some huge trade-off in power or handling, etc. when stepping up to a 4 door <anything> in comparison.
Regardless, I'm not flaming him, and I doubt anyone else here cares that much about what he does/doesn't do with his money, but the market right now is EXTREMELY saturated with cars that are head and shoulders above his decision so we're all just trying to figure out "Why?" 
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#603042 - 10/27/06 11:33 AM
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90TGP
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I went to other dealers, all the dealers are down the road from the Pontiac dealer. I looked at VW, didn't care for anything. Looked at Mazda, didn't want a Mazda 3 wagon. Looked at Scion, the G5 has more interior room. Looked at Nissan, the new Sentra is an insult to the phrase "butt ugly". Didn't want a Neon or a Focus. Honda Civic's aren't my taste and didn't want to be just another Honda fanboy and couldn't afford an Si model. The new Eclipse is hideous on the outside and inside, has nice power though. The RSX is probably just as fast as the G5 in auto form. Toyota didn't have anything, and didn't want a Camry or Corolla. Hyundai has the Tiburon, but the V6 engine makes the same horsepower as the 2.4 Ecotec.
And if I was looking at used cars, there are tons I could have bought at 20k used. But you people still would have bitched and complained unless it was a godly Civic Si or Subaru WRX.
And for what it's worth, all G5's [base, GT] come with the rear spoiler standard.
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#603047 - 10/27/06 01:02 PM
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sky for 22 steals the square.
Saturn Sky Invoice = 23k
Saturn Sky MSRP = 24,595 ..
With TTL, you'd be looking at just over $27k OTD.
To get a sky for 22k out the door, you'd have to get the dealer to come down about $5k off the MSRP. They'd be selling the car for a couple thousand under invoice. I guess it's possible, but it would take some good haggling.
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#603049 - 10/27/06 02:00 PM
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90TGP
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I couldn't drive a Solstice/Sky in the snow. I could, but it wouldn't be worth it as a daily driver.
Just to show a comparison between all of these "surperior" imports you nutswingers keep mentioning. I went to their websites and built a car with comparable options that I got on my G5. Here's the numbers straight from the manufacturers' websites.
2007 Pontiac G5 GT
Automatic
173hp/163tq
Options
[Body kit, rear spoiler, 17" Wheels come standard]
Leather
Heated Seats
Power Sunroof
Pioneer 7-Speaker Sound with 10" Sub [Cargo net included]
Remote Start
Fog Lights
6-Disc In-Dash CD-Player with Built-in MP3 player/XM Radio, with iPod Capability.
Side Curtain Airbags.
Ashtray [Don't smoke]
EPA Fuel Mileage: 25/32
Total: $22,040.00
2006 RSX Base
Automatic
155hp/138tq
Options
Leather
6-disc trunk cd-changer
Rear spoiler
Front/Rear/Side Spoilers
Fog Lights
16" Aluminum Wheels
[No remote start, no heated seats, only 6-speaker sound system, no built-in MP3 player, no side curtain airbags, no cargo net with the cd-changer]
EPA Fuel Mileage: 25/32
Total: $22,375.00
Destination: $670
2007 Civic EX Coupe
Automatic
140hp/128tq
Options
17" Wheels
Front/Rear/Side Spoilers
Fog Lights
Floor Mats
Cargo Net
Leather Steering Wheel
8-Disc CD-Changer
AM/FM/CD Tuner
iPod Link
[No remote start, no heated seats, no side curtain airbags, XM only available on models with navigation]
EPA Fuel Mileage: 30/40
Total: $24,080.00
Scion tC
Automatic
161hp/162tq
Options
Ground Effects Kit
Fog Lights
Rear Pedestal Spoiler
Side Curtain Airbags
Sport Steering Wheel
Scion Security
Ashtray Insert
Leather Shift Knob
Pioneer CD-Player with iPod Capability
10" Sub [No cargo net with sub]
EPA Fuel Mileage: 23/31
Total: $21,827.50
Destination: $670
2007 Mazda 6 5-Door
Automatic
i Sport VE: Starts at $20,990
156hp/154tq
i Touring: Starts at $23,115
Options
Leather Not Available on i Sport VE.
Remote Start
Cargo Net
EPA Fuel Mileage: 19/27
Total: $22,315.50
2007 Mitsubishi Eclipse GS
Automatic
162hp/162tq
Options
No leather available on GS model.
Accessory Package: Cargo net, cargo mat, alloy fuel door, wheel locks, sport floor mats.
Aero Package: Body kit
Sun&Sound Package for GS: Power sunroof, Rockford Fosgate 6-disc in-dash CD-Player with MP3, 9-Speaker sound system with 10" sub.
Fog Lights
Smoker's Kit
EPA Fuel Mileage: 23/29
Total: $25,472.50
2006 Volkswagen GTI
Automatic
200hp/207tq
Options
Leather
XM Radio
Ground Effects
EPA Fuel Mileage: 25/31
Total: $28,454.00
2007 Toyota, don't even offer a coupe
Looking at the other cars, the G5 GT has MORE horsepower and torque, and gets equal if not BETTER gas mileage then the competition.
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#603050 - 10/27/06 02:06 PM
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Z24 lol
and Fuck you for the new name lol
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lol on going by MSRP... Salesmen must love you.
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#603051 - 10/27/06 02:15 PM
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#603052 - 10/27/06 02:25 PM
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stickaz_old
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It is probably more relevant to go off of Edmund's "true" street pricing than MSRP. I'm sure you can find the website. It will list the invoice price as well.
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#603053 - 10/27/06 02:46 PM
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90TGP
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Registered: 10/07/04
Posts: 2781
Loc: Ohio
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People on this forum actually own Civic's?
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#603057 - 10/27/06 08:03 PM
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#603058 - 10/27/06 08:05 PM
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+1 for RSX auto
Scion TC. 160hp/155-160tq stock. Pretty sure its a 2.4. You might even be able to get one with the TRD supercharger for less than $22k out the door.
No you wont.
very possible if u get a base in the 17's.
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#603060 - 10/27/06 10:58 PM
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Chazmanian
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Registered: 10/16/06
Posts: 58
Loc: colorado springs colorado usa
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Wow.....How incredibly Bizzare.
In that perfect world Pontiac and Saturn dealers are selling Soltices and Sky's...For 2-3K behind sticker. Yeah Right....Base model Sky's and soltisces are pre-sold so far out you may never even know a person who owns one...Much less buy one fo' yo' self.
And GTI's with DSG for 22K out the door? Pass the Crack pipe bro...Cuz' I sho' wanna see what you see!!!!
Base RSX's for 17K.....C'mon bro your Corrola cost close to that? Why didnt you get yourself a 17K RSX. Fuck Civic's with anything on them cost more than 17K...
Heres an LE with automatic..
Corolla LE 4-Speed Automatic
Base Price:* $16,215
Delivery, Processing
& Handling Fee:** $620
Options: $2,060
Accessories: $0
Total MSRP:*** $18,895
Civic SI's out the door at 21.5K....Ummm most Folks are paying that pre-tax bro.
Check out the "what did you pay for your SI" thread in the 06 Civic SI forum. Be hard pressed to see many of them rolling out the door at that price. Would be nice but.....
Or hows about a deal on a new Subaroo-Forrestor
FORESTER 2.5 XT LIMITED
Starting at $27,895*
For the ultimate in safety, luxury, and performance, there’s the Forester 2.5 XT Limited. Loaded with every standard Subaru feature and more, the Forester 2.5 XT Limited does not compromise. Enjoy your drive in the leather-trimmed upholstery while music from the 7-speaker premium audio system merges with the scenery around you. Proof that it’s possible to experience comfort and adventure together.
Look I dont want to rush out and buy a G5 tomorrow morning...But fact of the matter is this guy went out and spent 20.5K and drove off in a new car with leather and some decent options....How can that be a bad thing?
I see everyone stating this that and the other but...What about Y'all????
What did those cars yens are driving really cost you????
Everbody so quick to point fingers and make jokes about a guy who obviously bought what made HIM HAPPY, and he has been "Hosed"? or considered less a man for not chosing what Y'all thought he should have chose?
The car had a list price of $22,040.00 Right...
He bought it out the door for 22K...AFTER TAXES!
Thats apprx $1500.00, so what did he pay for the car????
$20,500.00 give or take a buck here or there.
And this dude with some decent Horsepower, Torque, Smooth ride,Leather,Chicks will dig it Black as night G5 with chrome 17's and a nice look.....
Should have bought a base model Scion or a Rabbit???.......
How come aint none of Y'all driving Base Scions and Funky-Lil-Bitch Made Rabbits????
Oh Yeah, Cause Y'all have Forrestors, Corrolla's and Civic Si's....Go Figure?
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#603061 - 10/27/06 11:36 PM
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Z24 lol
and Fuck you for the new name lol
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lol this is funny.. I guess we are no longer allowed to use real world numbers and have to use MSRP cuz thats what the OP used when he bought a car.
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#603062 - 10/27/06 11:57 PM
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Meanoldman
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Registered: 09/04/06
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I just picked up my new black/ebony leather G5 GT on Monday night. It's the sister car to the Chevy Cobalt SS [non-supercharged model]. I got it fully loaded for just a hair over $22k out the door. I got the heated leather seats, sunroof, Pioneer 7-speaker stereo, 6-disc in-dash cd-player, side curtain airbags, free 1-year of OnStar, free 3-months of XM radio, foglights, and the remote start. I love this car, it's leaps and bounds beyond the Sunfire/Cavalier it replaced. It drives really smooth and has good power with the 2.4 Ecotec. I can easily pass on the highways, and merge in traffic. It handle really good, and takes bumps and potholes no problem. Gives great space in the cockpit, I even had to move my seat up. Lots of trunk space. Gets pretty good gas milage, 25city and 32highway. All around great car, and I'm glad I got it over any other car in it's price/power range. And I'm loving the free 3-months of XM radio.
Now for the pictures. Excuse the mess, it rained and snowed for the past couple of days here in Ohio.
So you just spent 22,000 on a Saturn ION????? LMAO! 
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#603064 - 10/28/06 01:00 AM
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Chazmanian
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Registered: 10/16/06
Posts: 58
Loc: colorado springs colorado usa
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Congrats on getting the car you wanted. If you are willing to pay X number of dollars, then the price doesn't matter. Bang for the buck doesn't matter either.
It sickens me when somebody wants to share something they are happy about and people roll in with their import fanboi and better-than-thou mentality and rips people apart for buying "dumbestic" "crappy GM" cars, complains that it isn't the fastest or best handling car for the money etc and when performance doesn't matter, they become metrosexual dashboard rapists. They should be happy you found something you like and wanted to tell about it.
FWIW last time I priced a new GTI it came to about 27k and a new Si was north of 25k
For a daily driver, the pontiac costs less, the ecotec is a nice engine and the parts to maintain it would be cheaper than the competition.
even my 98 GTI was about 25k new.
Your wrong  , I bought my new 06 Si for 20,850. How do you get north of 25K. This was at a Cleveland area Honda dealer BTW.
So you paid MSRP on a Base Base Honda civic SI?......Dude got $1500.00 off the price of his G5. He cant get no "Props"?
Why is everyone so worried about OP paying sticker? He obviously did not pay sticker??? WTF, is this the Retardo-Room?
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#603067 - 10/28/06 09:38 AM
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Chazmanian
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Registered: 10/16/06
Posts: 58
Loc: colorado springs colorado usa
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The OP will be crying himself to sleep when in a few months they slap 3k in rebates on that same model.
btw..a loaded( with all the options the op has) 05' cobalt coupe LT with 15k has a kbb trade in of 12k.
that car stickered at way over 20k just a year ago
So everyone who bought a G5 this year should go...
Kill Themselves?
I know the resale line.
Thats why I drive a Toyota Tacoma.
This Dude probably dosent care about Resale, He just wants to get his "Daily-Drive" on.
Nothing wrong with that' Yes?
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#603069 - 10/28/06 01:13 PM
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CrazeD
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Registered: 11/25/01
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I'm with the newbie here. The fact of the matter is, you cant get a lot of car for 20k these days. I think we're seeing the real damage of GM's legacy of crappiness from the last 20 years. Im looking at the G5 there and it looks kinda sporty. Nice wheels, good power, good interior, etc. With all the options, seems like it'd be a nice car to daily drive. Unfortunatley, it's gonna be hard for people to see past the "Pontiac" badge.
And anyone getting a Civic Si for 21.5k out the door is the world's greatest haggler. The dealers around here are treating those things like fucking C6 Z06's. They're treating regular Civics like base C6's. Like I said, my buddy just got his son a new Civic with less options than this dudes G5 and it came out to more money than this guys G5. He went to three 3 different dealers they absolutely refused to budge on the price of Civics.
I'm not a fan of buying new cars, but if you have to get something new, it's hard to get squat these days for 20k... and you can forget about haggling on anything that's hot and in demand. There's so many goobers that will pay a $3k markup for a Civic Si or V6 Mustang, that any mad haggling skillz you have will be instantly nullified.
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#603070 - 10/28/06 03:04 PM
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Chazmanian
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Registered: 10/16/06
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Civic SI's out the door at 21.5K....Ummm most Folks are paying that pre-tax bro.
Check out the "what did you pay for your SI" thread in the 06 Civic SI forum. Be hard pressed to see many of them rolling out the door at that price. Would be nice but.....
Umm, that's exactly where I got my info from genious. Just because a car stickers high doesn't mean that everyone pays that price and/or follows the lead of all the other retards that "have to have it NOW!"
Lets start with the corrected spelling of Genius.
Then lets re-visit the 'What Did you Pay for your SI Thread"
You find me one single post where someone claimed to have purchased an Civic SI for 21.5K out the door,.....And I'll Pay-Pal you a Hundred Dollar bill Cobretti!
Some simply stated that they right at MSRP or 20,800Ish...Most ended up paying substancially more than that.
But where you find lots of posts of folks buying new SI's for 21.5K out the door is still a mystery to me and all the "Automotive-Idiot-Savants" who are actually in the market for a new SI..........
But then again.....You Cobretti are the "Man" right?.
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#603072 - 10/28/06 04:54 PM
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Chazmanian
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Registered: 10/16/06
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Loc: colorado springs colorado usa
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My point Cobretti is that there is not one single post of someone who paid 21.5K out the door NOT A SINGLE POST!
The majority of the post's in the "What Did You Pay For Your SI" thread actually give a price thats PRE-TAX...Unlike Pontiac man who opened himself up for abuse by posting what he actually paid after driving away.
the cars MSRP'eed for what $20800 Last year?
This year they are what 21600, ish???
If we took every post from the what did you pay for your SI thread and averaged them across the actual number of post's it would still be substansially more than your $21.5 Quote.
Do you doubt me there?
I would bet if we averaged that entire thread it would fall right at $23.5+
And of Course I will keep my $100.00 because you quoted some shit that wasnt there.
Does this Quote look Familiar????
$24K for an almost base Civic? Of course GM is going to give you the highest number they can possibly find when it comes to the competetion (or any car maker, for the matter). We're on a Civic Si website for fucks sake, and 10 more seconds of research on THIS board would have told you that people are paying ~$21,500 OTD for their Si's. No one said to buy one of those instead, but if that hasn't shown that you got ripped, nothing will.
Ummmm...Ok a few Cats paid close to MSRP last year on some base model SI's....They "Cleverly" did not put the after tax prices in the post's. Almost as clever as you finding the 6% of people that didnt pay 22-23-24-K Fuck one guy paid 27K for a Fucking Civic????
You find me one single post where someone claimed to have purchased an Civic SI for 21.5K out the door,.....And I'll Pay-Pal you a Hundred Dollar bill Cobretti!
Now there isnt a single post on that entire thread where someone quoted $21.5 out the door........Is There?
Do you always make shit up Dude....Or is this the first time?
By the way, When I buy a Civic if I in fact make the final move I will dilligently work the Dealership for my "Magic" $500 Discount. And if I dont get it done....Depends on the Color, Weather, Positioning of the Moon, Overall mood of Wife, Etc..Etc...
I havent purchased an "Economy" car in years. Even sticker on a Civic is actually cheap to me!
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#603073 - 10/28/06 05:03 PM
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Turbo2OVJetta
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I'm with the newbie here. The fact of the matter is, you cant get a lot of car for 20k these days. I think we're seeing the real damage of GM's legacy of crappiness from the last 20 years. Im looking at the G5 there and it looks kinda sporty. Nice wheels, good power, good interior, etc. With all the options, seems like it'd be a nice car to daily drive. Unfortunatley, it's gonna be hard for people to see past the "Pontiac" badge.
For me it isn't the badge, it is the weaksause engine and the slushbox. Pontiac needs the superchanged Cobalt SS engine and I would think some suspension tweaks that could be taken from the Cobalt. That would make it a fairly cool car in my book.
Until then, that car is just another boring point A to point B box IMO.
Edited by Turbo2OVJetta (10/28/06 05:05 PM)
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#603075 - 10/28/06 05:34 PM
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Chazmanian
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Registered: 10/16/06
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Loc: colorado springs colorado usa
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I'm not going to say that GM has hit a "Homer" with the G5 GT but...they did offer a product with lots of features for a fairly reasonable price.
I have never owned a GM product...
If I were in the market for a new truck I would certainly look at the new GM full size.
But I'm not I'm in the market for a small economical car. A Civic SI to be exact.
Maybe a GTI.
If anyone can locate me a 2007 Light Colored Civic in the state of Colorado for $21.5 "Out The Door"
I WILL PAY-PAL THEM $200 AS SOON AS I TAKE DELIVERY OF MY NEW SI...
WHICH I WILL WRITE A CREDIT UNION CHECK FOR.
Cobretti???? Help a Bruthah' out with all your "Mad" car buying skills?
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#603076 - 10/28/06 07:14 PM
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cliff st-clair
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the main problem with that car is the depreciation, because he paid msrp for it.
It'll be worth what? 12k next year? LOL
20k would be fine and dandy considering the features he's got and it's not a bad looking car, but he should have been able to get it for a lot cheaper than that, because again, depreciation is going to own him if he decides he wants to sell or the car is totaled in an accident
He likes pontiac so much he should have bought a used GTO, such a much better car in everyway but fuel savings.
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#603077 - 10/28/06 08:30 PM
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Is it just me or are the trolls getting lamer?
or is the new blood getting dumber?
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#603079 - 10/28/06 10:12 PM
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Mazdaspeed 3, base MSRP $22,xxx,
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0-60 in 5.9, 1/4 14.2 @ 100 , 264 HP/280 TQ
I'm sure ford is offering 0.0 on it
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#603080 - 10/28/06 10:58 PM
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I don't know about Ford in first world countries but up here it's 4.9% for 24-36mo and 5.9% for >36mo terms
They also seem to be selling pretty fast too but that's a bit of a no brainer considering it's really the best sport compact around
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#603081 - 10/28/06 11:05 PM
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Chazmanian
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Mazdaspeed 3, base MSRP $22,xxx,
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0-60 in 5.9, 1/4 14.2 @ 100 , 264 HP/280 TQ
I'm sure ford is offering 0.0 on it
YEAH-IN-BIZZARO-LAND.
Good luck on that one.
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#603084 - 10/29/06 09:47 AM
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Cobretti????
Who the hell is Cobretti? lol
I do agree with you 100 percent on your argument though.
LOL Here is a picture of my truck and how much I paid for it...
It was stickered for $10,900 with just 72,000 miles at a Honda Dealer. I talked them down to around $10,600 and they also deleted the bullshit three hundred dollar charge for vehicle preperation. LOL Paint protectant. I took the sales manager and salesman over to a brand new Pilot on the showroom floor. I quickly found on the window sticker the dealer added a charge of $499.00 dollars for tape pinstriping. In a very loud voice where other customers could here, I told him I could buy the identical tape pinstriping for ten dollars at Autozone and apply it just like that within forty five minutes by myself. And then since I had there attention, I asked him how exactly that paint protectant is applied that I was paying three hundred dollars for, I asked if it was buffed on or sprayed on. When he answered that it was sprayed on, I just started laughing. It was probably just hosed on wax or something like you get for seventy five cents at the local spray and wash. He deleted that charge pretty quickly.
I do have little experience in haggling with car dealers and I still didn't talk them down as much as I hoped too.
I have had to put roughly thirteen hundred dollars into the truck to fix some things that were wrong with it. But at the time I bought it, it MSRP'd for twelve thousand and brand new it was a thirty thousand dollar truck back in 1999. And now that everything is fixed, it has a new timing chain and water pump as of last week, the plenum gasket should never fail again, aside from perhaps a clutch at some point, it is good to go for 250+ thousand miles.
EDIT: What kind of gas mileage are you getting in that new Tacoma? Does the TRD version have any more power than a non TRD Tacoma?
I know very little about the new Tacomas.
With just a muffler and air cleaner on the Dakota, I am getting ~16 miles per gallon in town and 19-20 miles per gallon on the highway. lol When I first got it, I was averaging low 14's in town and if lucky 16 or 17 miles per gallon on the highway.
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#603086 - 10/29/06 11:14 AM
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Chazmanian
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Cobretti????
Who the hell is Cobretti? lol
I do agree with you 100 percent on your argument though.
LOL Here is a picture of my truck and how much I paid for it...
It was stickered for $10,900 with just 72,000 miles at a Honda Dealer. I talked them down to around $10,600 and they also deleted the bullshit three hundred dollar charge for vehicle preperation. LOL Paint protectant. I took the sales manager and salesman over to a brand new Pilot on the showroom floor. I quickly found on the window sticker the dealer added a charge of $499.00 dollars for tape pinstriping. In a very loud voice where other customers could here, I told him I could buy the identical tape pinstriping for ten dollars at Autozone and apply it just like that within forty five minutes by myself. And then since I had there attention, I asked him how exactly that paint protectant is applied that I was paying three hundred dollars for, I asked if it was buffed on or sprayed on. When he answered that it was sprayed on, I just started laughing. It was probably just hosed on wax or something like you get for seventy five cents at the local spray and wash. He deleted that charge pretty quickly.
I do have little experience in haggling with car dealers and I still didn't talk them down as much as I hoped too.
I have had to put roughly thirteen hundred dollars into the truck to fix some things that were wrong with it. But at the time I bought it, it MSRP'd for twelve thousand and brand new it was a thirty thousand dollar truck back in 1999. And now that everything is fixed, it has a new timing chain and water pump as of last week, the plenum gasket should never fail again, aside from perhaps a clutch at some point, it is good to go for 250+ thousand miles.
EDIT: What kind of gas mileage are you getting in that new Tacoma? Does the TRD version have any more power than a non TRD Tacoma?
I know very little about the new Tacomas.
With just a muffler and air cleaner on the Dakota, I am getting ~16 miles per gallon in town and 19-20 miles per gallon on the highway. lol When I first got it, I was averaging low 14's in town and if lucky 16 or 17 miles per gallon on the highway.
The TRD Tacoma has the same 236HP 4.0L V-6 as the Non-TRD Version.
It is a Fuel-Hog!!!!
I get V-8 Mileage with a V-6?
Average 15 MPG around Town.
20MPG on the Highway if all the conditions are "Perfect". IE: No Uphills, No Trailer, Keep it at 70 MPH.
I have the TRD Sport which has the color keyed door handles "Faux" hood scoop, LSD Rear end, JBL Stereo with Factory Woofer (Weak As Carnival Lemonade!)
17" alloys, and the "Tuned" suspension with Bilstiens.
It a good truck but it gets crappy-ass mileage.
I would post a photo but this Forum wont let me post from Image Shack?
My wife has a 2001 BMW 325.
Thing is a Piece of Shizznat'.
Every "Service-Me-Now" light has started going crazy on the dash, The car literally "Eats" tires, The brakes are bad (Again) and it sprays crazy brake dust all over everything.
Every little thing I have done to that car cost me a fortune.
Fuck that car as She is going to be driving an Economy car anyday now.
Who is "Cobretti".........
I'm not really sure?
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#603087 - 10/29/06 11:20 AM
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Chazmanian
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GM felt there was a market between the 205hp SC engine and the 145hp base.
Turns out they were right.
Sure, but there would also be a market for the 205 hp engine and they are losing sales and creditability, especially among young male buyers, by not offering it.
Just think of the 300 or Charger only came with the 2 V6 engines (2.7 and 3.5). Sure, there would be a market for the 3.5, but they would be losing sales by not offering the 5.7.
I hate to say this...
Dont take offense guy who actually owns the G5 GT.
It is almost painfully obvious who the "Target" market is for that car.
Anyone?
Yeah, Its a Girl car.
That car has got to be targeted at 30 something women who make 40 something a year, and cant afford an Accord V-6 Coupe or Solara.
And them Broads dont need no SuperCharger's.
And probably dont care.
Yikes...Just my first impression.
But a Dude could rock that ride just as well????
Anyone remember the Sunfire GT Coupe?
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#603088 - 10/29/06 11:30 AM
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ewraven
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You used the word Cobretti below in Bold...
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I'm not going to say that GM has hit a "Homer" with the G5 GT but...they did offer a product with lots of features for a fairly reasonable price.
I have never owned a GM product...
If I were in the market for a new truck I would certainly look at the new GM full size.
But I'm not I'm in the market for a small economical car. A Civic SI to be exact.
Maybe a GTI.
If anyone can locate me a 2007 Light Colored Civic in the state of Colorado for $21.5 "Out The Door"
I WILL PAY-PAL THEM $200 AS SOON AS I TAKE DELIVERY OF MY NEW SI...
WHICH I WILL WRITE A CREDIT UNION CHECK FOR.
Cobretti???? Help a Bruthah' out with all your "Mad" car buying skills?
Your truck gets barely better gas mileage on the highway than mine. And mine has the old school 5.2 liter V8 in it. Of course mine is a little modified.
That is something that I have noticed about the Japanese DOHC 32 valve variable valve timing V8's too, they really don't get that good of gas mileage compared to the domestic pushrod 16 valve V8's. Especially now with cylinder deactivation.
The same can really be said when comparing yours and Nissans less powerful and smaller V6's to the highway mileage of the Chevy V8's with cylinder deactivation, even the Suburban is supposed to get like 20 miles per gallon now.
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#603090 - 10/29/06 01:23 PM
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Chazmanian
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Cobretti, Is my new "Forum-Friend" with the FCobra Login title.
And yes 24 Valve Tacoma V-6 4.0L is without a doubt a "Hog".
If they would have had a V-8 option I would have jumped on it!
Funny thing is the Tacoma has better 0-60 times than the V-8 Tundra.
I tow a small trailer running my business during the summer months.
I drive it to work all winter at my "Office-Job".
So it needed to be manuverable and able to be driven like a "Car"?
Its actually alot like a Camry with a lift kit!!!
For Real.
And without a Doubt that car is Pontiacs answer to the V-6 "Chic-Stang".
Even if it were Supercharged would it be the vehicle that competes with The Mazda Speed 3's, GTI's, and WRX's of the world?
Probably not...Its a Comfy "Boulevard" Cru-Zear.
And if Dude aint married....
Bee-Yatches across the country will be straight "Jockin" him in that ride.
Sadly those same Bee-Yatches will identify Forrestorts and Corrolla's with......Mommies Car?
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#603091 - 10/29/06 02:53 PM
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90TGP
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At least it isn't a Volkswagen. And I see more girls in my area driving the older Sunfire/Cavalier, 2nd/3rd/4thgen Eclipse, lastgen Grand Am, more then any other car.
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#603092 - 10/29/06 03:39 PM
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Chazmanian
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At least it isn't a Volkswagen. And I see more girls in my area driving the older Sunfire/Cavalier, 2nd/3rd/4thgen Eclipse, lastgen Grand Am, more then any other car.
No-No-No, I wasnt trying to Offend you with the "Chick" car comment.
I actually think personally that you got a whole helluva a lotta car for 22K out the door!
But in reality that car is not "Marketed" towards the "Youngsters" and speed fanatics 'that want Civic SI's? STI's,Mazda Speed Whatevers, GTI's, Etc...Etc...
That car is marketed at the slightly more mature buyer who prizes some comfort with their sport.
A large percentile of those buyers are in fact...Women.
That in no way shape or form makes you less of a ....Man.
I have friends that drive V-6 Mustangs and realize that in our current performance crazed atmosphere....Those are consider "Girl-Stangs".
But you are without a doubt correct when you say you see more Chicks in Eclispe's, Old school Sunfires and Grand Am's.
I think you have a car that you not only got lots of features for your Mulah....but you also have a car that will allow you to "Jock-Hoes" all day long and deeeeep into tomorrow.
If that was part of your plan....It will work!
That car looks like a Mini-GTO, great styling great features. Who cares what Pontiacs old Rep was????
The Cobalt SS is the car that is aimed at the "Crew" that frequents these types of forums.
Had you purchased a Cobalt SS with a Stick and no leather for 22K out the door you would have eagerly accepted and praised for your "Astute" buying skills.
Obviously you did not want to shift a small supercharged "Boy-Racer" car.
And you my friend are the Man who pays the cost to the Boss of Yo' Ride!!!
And to anyone that doubts that......F-Them.
BTW, the two most outspoken members of this forum who are convinced you made a mistake with your G5......Drive Subaroo-Forrestor's and Corrolla's.
So maybe its...Envy??? Cause instead of driving a potential "Girl" car they are the proud owners of "Womens" cars....I mean "Mommies". And it could eat whatever all day long or get X MPG or What-The-F-Ever...But those are still "Mommie" carz'.
Good job G-Man. Dang that would make a good plate for that G5....G MAN.
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#603095 - 10/29/06 04:01 PM
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ewraven
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WOW, I cannot tell where he ends and you begin after that post!
I definately believe that the G5 and Cobalt are NOT the new Cavaliers and Sunfires. Those cars were complete and utter garbage; especially the later Sunfire that looked like a Dustbuster vaccuum cleaner! LOL The Cobalt, G5 and Ion may technically still be in the same size and price class; but now they are solid competition for the Corolla's, Sentra's and the other nicer imported compact cars.
I've been thinking of a good compact car that I can drive on trips to leave the truck at home. I am honestly cross shopping the Corolla with the Cobalt and a few others that get really good gas mileage. I am adding the G5 to my list now after seeing those pictures.
Whichever car I decide on, it will be a used vehicle though. The Spec V just totally ruined my taste for buying brand new. I've had to put a lot of money into the Dakota; but so far I am up to like twelve thousand dollars total for purchase price and maintenance. I think of it as the fact that it was a thirty thousand dollar truck new and so I technically have still saved eighteen thousand with buying it used. It had 72k miles on it when I got it; but that is nothing for my truck. There are people with those things still going strong at over 300,000 miles.
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#603096 - 10/29/06 04:08 PM
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Chazmanian
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Bullshit. The G5 is a girl car. Who in there right mind would buy this 2.4 Saturn Ion is beyond me.
YOU ARE A MEAN OLD MAN......Ummmmm, Yeah Mean.
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#603097 - 10/29/06 04:15 PM
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Chazmanian
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OOp's...you are also an Educated "MeanOldMan".....damn!
This is in fact an ION Coupe?
This is an ION 'Sans" the leather.
PACKAGES AND OPTIONS
Anti-lock brakes with Traction Control, Anti-lock brakes help prevent wheel lock-up and allow the driver to maintain control of the vehicle. Traction Control reduces wheel spin to maximize traction in slippery conditions.$0.00Enhanced Performance Package, Includes 175-horsepower 2.4-liter engine with Variable Valve Timing, anti-lock brakes, Traction Control and sport-tuned suspension.$995.00Floor mats, Carpeted front and rear floor mats are custom fit to your Saturn. They're easy to clean and color coordinated.$80.00Power sunroof, With the touch of a button, the available power sunroof retracts to bring a little of the outside into your Saturn. $750.00Rear spoiler$275.00Saturn Advanced Audio System, The ION's quiet ride comes standard. Unless, of course, you opt for the 160-watt amplifier and six premium speakers. $290.00Sport Appearance Package, Includes sport front and rear fascias side rockers, chrome-plated exhaust tip and projector beam fog lamps., Requires Enhanced Performance Package - $995. This option will be pre-selected for you.$500.00Travel Package, Includes auto-dimming inside rearview mirror with outside temperature and compass display, and driver and passenger map lights.$200.00XM Satellite Radio (1), XM Satellite Radio gives you access to more than 170 news, talk, sports and music channels whenever and wherever you drive. , (1) Service fees extra. Available only in the 48 contiguous United States. Visit gm.xmradio.com for system details. $199.00
EXTERIOR ACCESSORIES
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TOTAL
Total MSRP$20,709.00
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#603101 - 10/29/06 05:22 PM
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90TGP
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Or pay $30k for an overpriced GTI R32 that only has 240hp. Can get an Evo/STi for about the same price but with more horsepower. And all Audi's are overpriced VW's.
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#603102 - 10/29/06 05:39 PM
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right, like a G5 is a badged-out ion
you'll find few here to defend the R32 in anything, EVO/STI have plenty of fans of course
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#603103 - 10/29/06 05:50 PM
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Chazmanian
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Or pay $30k for an overpriced GTI R32 that only has 240hp. Can get an Evo/STi for about the same price but with more horsepower. And all Audi's are overpriced VW's.
BTW, what did you pay for the G5 Pre-Tax??
The major issue continues to be the "Impression" that you actually paid a full 22K for the Gee-Five....In reality you have a State, County and City that needs:
Cops, Buses, Sheriffs, Shelters, Welfare,Roads, Road Crews, Jails, Prisons,Bridges, Mayors, Guv-Nuhs,Foster care, Parks, Pools, Woods, Homeless Guys getting Drunk in said Woods.
All supported by your Tax Dollars.
This list could get so long it would be insane..
What was actual sticker and what did you pay? 
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#603105 - 10/29/06 06:09 PM
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Chazmanian
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What hosting site are Y'all using to host these pictures? Image shack wont "Take"?
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#603106 - 10/29/06 06:19 PM
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90TGP
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I use photobucket.com
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#603107 - 10/29/06 06:20 PM
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90TGP
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I'll have to find my papers to get the price.
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#603108 - 10/29/06 06:48 PM
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GM felt there was a market between the 205hp SC engine and the 145hp base.
Turns out they were right.
Sure, but there would also be a market for the 205 hp engine and they are losing sales and creditability, especially among young male buyers, by not offering it.
Just think of the 300 or Charger only came with the 2 V6 engines (2.7 and 3.5). Sure, there would be a market for the 3.5, but they would be losing sales by not offering the 5.7.
I think GM made a choice not to have all of the same options between the G5 and the Cobalt, GM doesnt wnt a repeat ofthe J-body tiwns. I don't think we will ever see an S/C G5.
A little side note, GM never indended to sell a pontiac version of the Cobalt in the USA. Although in canada there was a pontiac model released at the same time as the Cobalt , called the pursuit.
Just like the sunfire, the Pursuit (now G5) is out selling the Cobalt I guess GM decided to give it a chance in the US.
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#603110 - 10/29/06 07:10 PM
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Chazmanian
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GM felt there was a market between the 205hp SC engine and the 145hp base.
Turns out they were right.
Sure, but there would also be a market for the 205 hp engine and they are losing sales and creditability, especially among young male buyers, by not offering it.
Just think of the 300 or Charger only came with the 2 V6 engines (2.7 and 3.5). Sure, there would be a market for the 3.5, but they would be losing sales by not offering the 5.7.
I think GM made a choice not to have all of the same options between the G5 and the Cobalt, GM doesnt wnt a repeat ofthe J-body tiwns. I don't think we will ever see an S/C G5.
A little side note, GM never indended to sell a pontiac version of the Cobalt in the USA. Although in canada there was a pontiac model released at the same time as the Cobalt , called the pursuit.
Just like the sunfire, the Pursuit (now G5) is out selling the Cobalt I guess GM decided to give it a chance in the US.
I have to disagree, I have read "Rumors" or "Rumblings" of a GXP badged S/C G5.
Which is certainly not far fetched as Pontiac is supposed to be the "Performance" oriented branch of the General.
Now imagine his already "Fairly Good Looking" G5 with Cobalt SS running gear and maybe some of those crazy Pontiac hood scoops.
They could tie in a good adverstising campaign.......
Maybe an old Journey song....
Dont stop believing...Hold on to that feeee-lane-yea-ya..Street Light People whoa-uh-whoa.......
Yeah, I need a job with GM's Marketing Dept.
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#603113 - 10/29/06 08:24 PM
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MikeYOX
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For 22k, you should be in a full sized car.
I'm not the least bit opposed to paying $22k for a compact car of econobox origins. But the motor and suspension tuning better be something special.
cheers,
scott
Indeed, but I didn't bother to specify that point since this is CLEARLY nothing like it.
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#603114 - 10/30/06 12:03 AM
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Chazmanian
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As long as they don't put hood scoups on it. im ok.
If GM does make a GXP version, it should be the turbo motor.
What no "Faux" scoops....WTF even my Tacoma has the mandatory "Faux" scoops....Bastards. When I bought this truck and asked the retarded ass salesman what the fuck good is a soop that dont scoop he said......Its an important part of the sport package sir! What an Idiot....Lucky for me the Scoop that dont scoop gives me like...15 X-tra HP....Placebo HorsePower! Still prefer my sport over the off-road as all the trim is color keyed and it gets the 17" rims.
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#603115 - 10/30/06 12:08 AM
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Chazmanian
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Here with my "Mighty-Ass" fake hood scoop at the top of a steep-ass hill in the badlands of Utah. Getting a Wallet draining 10MPG for like 250 Miles of hilly terrain. Still like the Toyota product though.
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#603116 - 10/30/06 12:53 AM
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XT6Wagon
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HAHAH I got 10.5mpg towing across the rocky mountains the long way... in My F150 with 15,960lbs of combined wieght between it and my 20ft enclosed car hauler.
guess my lowtech V8 with only 3 valves a cylinder sucks
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#603117 - 10/30/06 06:45 AM
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Chazmanian
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HAHAH I got 10.5mpg towing across the rocky mountains the long way... in My F150 with 15,960lbs of combined wieght between it and my 20ft enclosed car hauler.
guess my lowtech V8 with only 3 valves a cylinder sucks
I run I-70 from Denver and I'll tell ya'....
The lack of low-end Torque makes for a long towing day through the Rockies and most of Utah.
The V-6 is "Strong" but its really designed to be more of a "Driver" not a "Pulling" Truck.
In essence I end up running it on the Interstates all "Wound-Out" when pulling a Trailer at around 3000+ RPM's so I can maintain 70-75 MPH.
It will not "Hold" Overdrive and needs to be driven in 4th sometimes even 3rd.
The 5speed Auto is super smooth shifting and really a great Tranny...
But the V-6 just dosent make enough Torque to pull my trailer up hills at low RPM's.
Does great without the Trailer though and next year I'm going to fit a Nosecone to the Trailer and try to get some "Aero" action going, as its not the wieght of the Trailer (1800#'s) its the ineffiecent "Flat Frontal Area" design.
And yes I will concede on this point....
Thing gets all Weak Kneed and "Ricey" in the derned mountains!!!
You know youre struggling when of those Powerstroke Diesels fly by you at 85-90 MPH towing a Fucking Bulldozer or two......
Bastards!
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#603123 - 10/30/06 01:17 PM
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I tow all the time in overdrive. however some old manual transmissions that were made 5spds from older 4spds, had weak overdrive gears and thus couldn't take towing heavy loads in overdrive. usualy not a concern since the engines they are coupled with usualy require downshifting anyway for said highload periods so...
oh and my truck has "only" the gas 5.4L 3v
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#603124 - 10/30/06 10:04 PM
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Chazmanian
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In essence I end up running it on the Interstates all "Wound-Out" when pulling a Trailer at around 3000+ RPM's so I can maintain 70-75 MPH.
It will not "Hold" Overdrive and needs to be driven in 4th sometimes even 3rd.
Somebody correct me if I'm wrong... although I realize 3000# isn't much of a load, I thought you were *never* supposed to tow in OD?
Although I must admit, when I tow <5,000# in my tahoe, I usually have it in OD and just cruise around 65-70 mph. It does have the towing package though (tranny cooler, etc). If there is even a hint of an uphill I slow and get it out of OD.
I do not tow 3000#'s.
I tow an 1800# Cargo trailer.
My statement was that I generally need to be turning 3000 RPM's when not in OD.
To stay with the "flow-Of-Traffic" on the interstates.
The problem is not the weight but the poor aerodynamics or absolute lack of...With my Trailer.
The screwy thing is that in OD ( I have an Automatic with the Trailer Tow PKG and it is rated for 6500#) It is just a barely able to "Hold" 5th Gear OD and wants to initiate the dreaded "Gear-Hunt"...At which point I quickly drop it into 4th and power away.
In OD my mileage is great! even with the Trailer I can Avg 18MPG on the HWY.
Ohhh but when running in 4th...Good Gawd it begins to just guzzle the fuel, the 91 Octane fuel at that!
If I just had a 4.5th gear it would be all good.
But I dont so my next move is to install a nose-cone on the Trailer and try to "Clean-Up" the Aerodynamics. Or just buy a better F-ing Trailer.
I run a Business during the summer months that takes me and my Trailer all thru the Western states.
It pays well and I like being out on the road.
And the Tacoma really is a "Sporting" Truck as far as Trucks go.
Just couldnt see driving a damned full size all winter as I run a company in an office complex and its hard enough finding parking for the Lil' taco! Plus the Tacoma is an Off-roading Supah-Stah!
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#603125 - 10/30/06 10:08 PM
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Chazmanian
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yeah for gods sake lose the banner on the truck, im sure it says TRD 14-15 other places.
C'mon D-Walk......It only says TRD on the derned rear Quarters.....
And the Window Tinters talked me into it......
It looks better in...Person?
Bastards.....Damned guy cant even run a "Riced" out Banner without facing the "Wrath" around here.....
Thats it I'm going back to Toyota Nation Forum....Where a Guy and his Banner get some well deserved respect!!!!
You Guys Rock!
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#603127 - 10/30/06 10:34 PM
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XT6Wagon
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god, you get 10mpg towing 1800lbs? I don't even notice that small of a trailer
Edited by XT6Wagon (10/30/06 11:06 PM)
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#603128 - 10/30/06 11:10 PM
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Chazmanian
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god, you get 10mpg towing 1800lbs? I don't even notice that small of a trailer
In the Mountains....The V-6 just dosent have the Torque to earn its money "Honestly'....Its has to "Cheat" and turn crazy RPM's!!!! That causes impressive fuel consumption. A low end torque monster V-8 the 4.0L Toyota motor will never be. But....I'll race you dammit!
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#603130 - 10/31/06 03:30 PM
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ewraven
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A low end torque monster V-8 the 4.0L Toyota motor will never be. But....I'll race you dammit!
I'll race you! 
I had looked into the new mid size Nissan Frontier's. I would forever miss my 5.2 liter in my Dakota though. I sure do miss my old 2wd 1993 Magnum 5.2 liter Dakota though. 300 lb-ft of torque with a 3.92 LSD rear end was a lot of fun in that truck, which didn't really weigh all that much for a midsize truck.
How much does that Tacoma weigh? My truck is around 4720 pounds; that was with about 150 pounds of junk in the toolbox. I don't remember though if that was without me in it or not. I need to remove the toolbox, get my junk out of the truck and weigh it again without me in it and with a full tank of gas. Just for curiosity.
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#603132 - 10/31/06 09:46 PM
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Chazmanian
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"Every" "time" you use "quotation marks" where they "aren't" " necessary" it makes "me" want to "reach" through "the" "internet" and "stab" you "in" the "face."
Gah.
I honestly did not realize you Pussy Ass Canadians were so.....Violent?
Sorry if I offended you.
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#603133 - 10/31/06 09:49 PM
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Chazmanian
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A low end torque monster V-8 the 4.0L Toyota motor will never be. But....I'll race you dammit!
I'll race you!
I had looked into the new mid size Nissan Frontier's. I would forever miss my 5.2 liter in my Dakota though. I sure do miss my old 2wd 1993 Magnum 5.2 liter Dakota though. 300 lb-ft of torque with a 3.92 LSD rear end was a lot of fun in that truck, which didn't really weigh all that much for a midsize truck.
How much does that Tacoma weigh? My truck is around 4720 pounds; that was with about 150 pounds of junk in the toolbox. I don't remember though if that was without me in it or not. I need to remove the toolbox, get my junk out of the truck and weigh it again without me in it and with a full tank of gas. Just for curiosity.
I'm really unsure of the weight, but the damn thing accelerates pretty quick for a truck.
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#603134 - 10/31/06 10:54 PM
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ewraven
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Here is your trucks weight...
http://www.toyota.com/vehicles/2007/tacoma/specs_double_cab.html
I'm surprised, I figured it would be a couple hundred pounds heavier.
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#603135 - 10/31/06 11:26 PM
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I honestly did not realize you Pussy Ass Canadians were so.....Violent?
Sorry if I offended you.
OH NO YOU DI'INT
Enjoy being banned!
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#603137 - 11/01/06 01:06 AM
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Fine, I'll unban him.
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