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#8673458 - 05/27/16 11:04 AM FTP test friday: anybody else?
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feel the bern!
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#8673465 - 05/27/16 11:09 AM Re: FTP test friday: anybody else? [Re: schtickaz.ai]
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Maybe next week bro.
How exactly does this work, just hop on the trainer for 20 minutes and hammer and get watts?

What's your goal bro? I'm hoping for 220?

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#8673479 - 05/27/16 11:24 AM Re: FTP test friday: anybody else? [Re: ]
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hopefully >300w somewhere. feel the bern bro!
the 'shorter' version which takes ~45m on the program. 20 minutes of actual hammering but theres a few intervals before that to keep it honest/hard efforts in there

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#8673550 - 05/27/16 12:23 PM Re: FTP test friday: anybody else? [Re: schtickaz.ai]
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I would participate if I had a trainer...can I do it on rollers?
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#8673560 - 05/27/16 12:27 PM Re: FTP test friday: anybody else? [Re: Risky Business]
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vpower compatibility I think requires a trainer w/a known resistance curve. Or you easily could if you had a hub/wheel/crank/pedal based power meter otherwise

based on recommendations here I went with a $150 CL kurt kinetic and then added the ANT+ USB dongle for my labtop and then a speed/cadence sensor [ant+] for the bike, all in not much over $230 or something
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#8673570 - 05/27/16 12:32 PM Re: FTP test friday: anybody else? [Re: schtickaz.ai]
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I will never own a trainer.

AND FOR THAT REASON, I AM OUT!!! 3 Freds is 2 too many.

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#8673612 - 05/27/16 12:44 PM Re: FTP test friday: anybody else? [Re: Risky Business]
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I think some people do a ftp test on-bike if the winds are calm when using a on-bike powermeter. Figuring out how to do the warmup 'right' is the only challenging part.

of course if you have an actual race and record power you have a pretty darn good idea what your ftp is anyways if you just look at net output

If I had an on-bike power meter I'd be even more annoying to everyone
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#8673689 - 05/27/16 01:22 PM Re: FTP test friday: anybody else? [Re: schtickaz.ai]
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40m till go time!

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#8673726 - 05/27/16 01:43 PM Re: FTP test friday: anybody else? [Re: schtickaz.ai]
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Looks like there's
1x20
or
2x8
options

I might do the latter given my lack of knowledge of proper effort level.

Are we reporting 20minute output or FTP (20 min X.95)?

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#8673731 - 05/27/16 01:47 PM Re: FTP test friday: anybody else? [Re: ]
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You guys have gone full retard.
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#8673734 - 05/27/16 01:47 PM Re: FTP test friday: anybody else? [Re: ]
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exactly, like last time I got 290w, so it calls that 276 which I believe is the 1-hr FTP assumption from the shorter test

it goes like warmup, a 1x5 at your planned FTP, more warmup stuff, occasional 120% of planned FTP [2x1] more slower stuff, back and forth, and then 20m hammer time at your planned FTP

I plan on leaving a got damned disaster on these shoddy pine floorings here
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#8673736 - 05/27/16 01:49 PM Re: FTP test friday: anybody else? [Re: schtickaz.ai]
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TiL: monitoring objective performance based cycling data is 'retarded' yet running/training for ultras is not
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#8673745 - 05/27/16 01:54 PM Re: FTP test friday: anybody else? [Re: Sir Ironpool]
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 Originally Posted By: Mrs. Ironmom
You guys have gone full retard.


I feel like this is the road-bike equivalent of running a 5km
on a treadmill


Stupid, but nice for getting a baseline

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#8673757 - 05/27/16 02:00 PM Re: FTP test friday: anybody else? [Re: ]
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I just think he's a [closet?] dataphobe snob. Eg look how fast I am, I dont need to monitor any data [so you shouldnt either]. Hasn't gone out and said it yet but I figure I might as well throw it out there and stop the waiting!

\:o



For me personally, it helps me set/guess/estimate the planned speed/power for the races I do-- eg an oly tri the bike leg a certain percentage of your FTP is recommended to have the best overall results, just a target to shoot for depending on how the day goes. Given that I only race those about ~2x/yr it puts me in the range I need to be more accurately IMO
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#8673792 - 05/27/16 02:17 PM Re: FTP test friday: anybody else? [Re: schtickaz.ai]
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I just don't care personally, but test away.

Did you ever do an 800m race?
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#8673809 - 05/27/16 02:27 PM Re: FTP test friday: anybody else? [Re: Impulsive]
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no lol but I might this summer. $20 says I dont come anywhere near/close to your speed and a further $20 says your wife easily has me covered too!


Like my goals this summer for the 400/800/mile series are:
1:14/2:42/6:00

or whatever a 6:00/mi works out to going backwards

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#8673828 - 05/27/16 02:41 PM Re: FTP test friday: anybody else? [Re: schtickaz.ai]
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i hate the ftp test. hate.
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#8673841 - 05/27/16 02:50 PM Re: FTP test friday: anybody else? [Re: schtickaz.ai]
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 Originally Posted By: stickaz
no lol but I might this summer. $20 says I dont come anywhere near/close to your speed and a further $20 says your wife easily has me covered too!


Like my goals this summer for the 400/800/mile series are:
1:14/2:42/6:00

or whatever a 6:00/mi works out to going backwards



*searches for a track nearby*

I might commit for 2 weeks and then give up, like everything running related tho. \:\|

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#8673845 - 05/27/16 02:55 PM Re: FTP test friday: anybody else? [Re: Risky Business]
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#8673888 - 05/27/16 03:54 PM Re: FTP test friday: anybody else? [Re: ]
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yisss
btw: 322w/305w result
just touched 160 HR right at the end which is actually right around what I seem to do in a 5K heh

$1_hr_ftp_test=($1hr_ftp_test)+29

= right at the median of cat 3 rating



~1 minute spent in zone 5! woo! lol
note: minutes 17-37 are right around the actual FTP test, the earlier stuff are warmup intervals


I basically avg'd 154-155 HR for the entire thing [20m], I dont think I left much on the table, had a couple moments where I had to back off a bit to rally lol







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#8673939 - 05/27/16 04:48 PM Re: FTP test friday: anybody else? [Re: schtickaz.ai]
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I'll allow it.

I'm not a snob, I just don't see the point in obsessing over numbers if you're just gonna puss out any time the effort gets uncomfortable.



 Originally Posted By: stickaz
I just think he's a [closet?] dataphobe snob. Eg look how fast I am, I dont need to monitor any data [so you shouldnt either]. Hasn't gone out and said it yet but I figure I might as well throw it out there and stop the waiting!

\:o



For me personally, it helps me set/guess/estimate the planned speed/power for the races I do-- eg an oly tri the bike leg a certain percentage of your FTP is recommended to have the best overall results, just a target to shoot for depending on how the day goes. Given that I only race those about ~2x/yr it puts me in the range I need to be more accurately IMO
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#8673943 - 05/27/16 04:57 PM Re: FTP test friday: anybody else? [Re: Sir Ironpool]
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it's a process :p
1 minute in zone 5 just now is about 1 minute longer than I spent in it last week!
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#8674113 - 05/27/16 08:04 PM Re: FTP test friday: anybody else? [Re: schtickaz.ai]
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This is pretty gross -

Buy this

Amazon - Sweat mat

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#8674167 - 05/27/16 09:08 PM Re: FTP test friday: anybody else? [Re: civic00sedan]
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Fuck that!one more thing to clean. I just towel it up and burn the towel lol
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#8674169 - 05/27/16 09:10 PM Re: FTP test friday: anybody else? [Re: schtickaz.ai]
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Fastest cat 3 racer who doesn't race?
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#8674239 - 05/27/16 10:15 PM Re: FTP test friday: anybody else? [Re: ]
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I'll probably join the cat5s up Hamilton this year

Also one of the reasons I started doing tris was to have actual TT bike splits, 2 more next month for this non-racer, adding to the 2 I've already done this year
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#8674812 - 05/28/16 09:42 PM Re: FTP test friday: anybody else? [Re: schtickaz.ai]
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