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#9376215 - 08/13/18 08:45 AM Thoughts on Infinity Q50 (2014) - Recent test drive
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Hi guys,

I've been looking for a replacement for my 98 540i for a while now and I've driven a bunch of cars over the past two years. I'm trying to avoid German if I can - dreaded maintenance and headaches. Only recently have I started driving my car hard knowing that the end is near - before I would baby it most of the time because I felt like I was driving a ticking time bomb. So basically looking for something that is still engaging but practical - I have a project truck for unpractical fulfillment.

Cars I have tested.
Acura TL SH AWD - not a bad package, with a nice interior - got scared away from this model though as the motor had a knock with less than 100K on the clock - I know it could be due to neglect

Lexus ISF - this car was a win in most categories - but not the most practical being RWD and 400+ HP

e90 BMW M3 - same as above plus the lack or torque down low made my car feel faster from a punch - I didn't take this to the upper rev range to really ring it out as I was in traffic. I felt the shifter could be better - must have been stock

Audi S4 - paddles - the car felt pretty cramped initially but this sonnofabitch moved me. After I took an onramp I screamed out "Holy shit" it had the sport diff and gripped for days and I could keep pushing it and never felt like I was on the brink - when I did that with the TL AWD (same on ramp) I had the tires talking to me. But German built has me reluctant.

BMW 550i - twin turbo v8 - it was a big pig with soft steering and way to much weight - only felt good at HWY speeds

I've tested out others but nothing worth noting...which brings me to the Q50.

I recently ran against one of these and could not catch up (makes me think my car is starting to show it's age).

First thoughts when I sat inside was just OK a bit of cheaper feel but not like a civic or accord - just nothing moved me. It also felt cramped at first - I'm used to an airy cabin in the e39 for 10 years. However I did start warming up to the car and appreciated the tech it offered and a heated steering wheel was a nice feature - similar to my car but not sure if this is available on the sport model.

Now onto the drive - this was the premium not the sport. But for a non sport everything felt really dialed in - I was impressed with how precise the steering felt not much input needed at all. In reviews I have read it can be optioned with electric steering - if it was I never once noticed it.

The suspension felt nice and tight and this car had 130KM on it. When I was pushing it on the on ramp I had confidence in the handling but I could tell the AS tires were the weak point as I could hear them making some noise - I'm sure a nice dedicated summer would really enhance this as it is AWD.

The brakes felt really good too - I was impressed again - maybe it's because I have a 20 year old car.

Power - was adequate - out of the box these have 330 hp which is plenty and I already know it's faster than my current car - it just doesn't have the same amount of torque - which I think I'm OK with because the handling was very good.

Something I did notice was that after punching it there was always a smell - I noticed this also with the S4 - not sure if this is nature of the cars.

Next up I'm planning on testing out the S model as the seats, suspension and brakes are supposed to better so I'll report back after that if you guys are interested.

Just wanted to share my opinion on this car as I feel like this has made the short list and ticks the boxes, I welcome your guys opinion on this car and if you know of anything to watch out for please share.

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#9376230 - 08/13/18 09:12 AM Re: Thoughts on Infinity Q50 (2014) - Recent test drive [Re: Mr.Bozack]
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You shat your pants

 Originally Posted By: Mr.Bozack
Something I did notice was that after punching it there was always a smell - I noticed this also with the S4 - not sure if this is nature of the cars.

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#9376233 - 08/13/18 09:17 AM Re: Thoughts on Infinity Q50 (2014) - Recent test drive [Re: furball]
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Ha ha - that would be a hellcat test drive.

It smelt like burning oil smell - not vasoline ha ha
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#9376254 - 08/13/18 09:51 AM Re: Thoughts on Infinity Q50 (2014) - Recent test drive [Re: Mr.Bozack]
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that whole post just felt like an add for Infinity
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#9376256 - 08/13/18 09:53 AM Re: Thoughts on Infinity Q50 (2014) - Recent test drive [Re: Screamin Type ARGH!]
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M3 with DCT would be a great choice. Just make sure the rod bearings have been done.
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#9376279 - 08/13/18 10:33 AM Re: Thoughts on Infinity Q50 (2014) - Recent test drive [Re: Senor Eduardo_82]
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No add for infinity, maybe I'm just a bit excited that I have finally found a car that ticks most of the boxes...I'm a honda fanboi at heart had my SiR for 11 years and sold it cuz of kids. I wanted to like the new accord 2.0 turbo with a 6 speed but it felt so numb everywhere I couldn't see how modding it would help.

Trust me Curry I want an M3 pretty bad - knowing that the value of them is going up I feel like now is the time because soon enough they will be like an e46 M3 and the price won't make sense. My issue with that car is that I could be pretty close to 10K in maintenance in the first 3 years and the wife would bitch about it for days. Rod Bearings, Throttle actuators, Tires, and who knows what other shitty parts will break - haven't even researched to see if they finally fixed cooling issues after 20 years for that car. If it was more reliable yes - but said repairs have me skeptical...even though I know this is the pinnacle for performance sedans.

I've also heard DCT reliability for long term can be questionable - I'm imagining collectors will seek out 6 speeds - kinda like how SMG M3s are less desirable.


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#9376295 - 08/13/18 10:51 AM Re: Thoughts on Infinity Q50 (2014) - Recent test drive [Re: Mr.Bozack]
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Are you buying a collector's car, or a DD?

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#9376458 - 08/13/18 02:36 PM Re: Thoughts on Infinity Q50 (2014) - Recent test drive [Re: Senor Eduardo_82]
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a DD with collector status lol
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#9376538 - 08/13/18 05:27 PM Re: Thoughts on Infinity Q50 (2014) - Recent test drive [Re: Mr.Bozack]
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E90 M3 is reliable. Probably the most reliable out of the cars you listed...

Throttle actuators are a cheap fix now as 3rd party kits are available. Rod bearings will be the costly one at around $3k at a shop. Those are the major items. I bet you the E90 M3 will be more reliable than the Infiniti.
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#9376615 - 08/13/18 08:44 PM Re: Thoughts on Infinity Q50 (2014) - Recent test drive [Re: Hatorade]
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130k is a lot no? especially if you are going to keep long term....how many kms on the 540?
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#9376624 - 08/13/18 09:03 PM Re: Thoughts on Infinity Q50 (2014) - Recent test drive [Re: Raocorp]
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my brz is at 123k \:\(
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#9376645 - 08/13/18 09:43 PM Re: Thoughts on Infinity Q50 (2014) - Recent test drive [Re: phoenixrage]
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 Originally Posted By: phoenixrage
my brz is at 123k \:\(


Ya but you bought that new tho, no?
I'm just saying that 130k seems high if he plans to drive it for another 10yrs. That would bring it to approximately 330k in 10yrs from now figuring 20k/yr. There's no way it will be problem free from now to till then.

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#9376723 - 08/14/18 06:16 AM Re: Thoughts on Infinity Q50 (2014) - Recent test drive [Re: Raocorp]
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My dad has a 2006 330i with 280k on it. Aside from coils and one water pump fix it has been SOLID. And this car has no preventative maintenance done. Just fix as you go lol
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#9376768 - 08/14/18 08:24 AM Re: Thoughts on Infinity Q50 (2014) - Recent test drive [Re: Hatorade]
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I drive less than 10K on my daily - work from home. So yes 130KM would be high if I were planning to put 20+ a year on it.

My BMW mechanic has also told me that the e90 M3 is one of the more reliable models they have made - other than the known issues. I would be surprised if it was more reliable than the Q50 just based on my experience with BMW and seals and parts always failing.

I have 185KM on the 540

That's pretty good with the 330 as I've been told that was a model to stay away from.
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#9376995 - 08/14/18 01:04 PM Re: Thoughts on Infinity Q50 (2014) - Recent test drive [Re: Mr.Bozack]
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You’re mistaking 330i for 335i. Infiniti’s are not reliable cars, worse of the Japanese makes. So yes I stand by what I said that the E90 M3 will be more reliable.
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#9377022 - 08/14/18 01:34 PM Re: Thoughts on Infinity Q50 (2014) - Recent test drive [Re: Hatorade]
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So I'm guessing nobody on here has any first hand experience with this car?

Infinities aren't reliable? That's the first I have heard that! I see you own a e90 M3 so you can stand by your reliability statement. Do you ever drive the M3 in the winter? I don't imagine it to be that bad since it doesn't have gobs of torque.
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#9377037 - 08/14/18 01:41 PM Re: Thoughts on Infinity Q50 (2014) - Recent test drive [Re: Hatorade]
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S4 shouldn't smell after a hard drive. Mine never did that.
That sc v6 is a solid motor. it's campaigned in continential/pirelli world challenge by apr and that motor is doing fantastic without even oil pan upgrades (baffling). the only thing to watch out for is longevity of the sport diff, as that is unknown. otherwise, that thing is robust as hell. mine was over rev'd by a certain someone on this board at mosport (money shift), and it is still good. I'd argue that the s4 is less running cost than an m3, as you don't have a diff that needs replacing or rod bearings that will need attention. Though no doubt, m3 is the better buy if you take care of it (read: the resale aspect). M3 is also dynamically the superior car. there is just no comparison.

of that list, surely, isf is the safest bet. sounds awesome, auto (sounds like you want auto), fun as hell. but ok, kinda small.

@Hator - there is NO WAY the m3 is the most reliable car on the list. did you miss the lexus? LOL??????????????????????????????????????????????????

Also, i'd personally avoid dct cars if you intend to keep it long. As for the bmw v8, talk to any service advisor for horror stories. makes for fun times.
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#9377103 - 08/14/18 02:32 PM Re: Thoughts on Infinity Q50 (2014) - Recent test drive [Re: 4age]
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wanna buy my 2011 535i M package RWD 6spd car? Carbon black on cream leather, 113k all stock, new plugs, battery, oil/filter, high/low pressure fuel pumps.
And soon to be new rear coil springs (one coil broke somehow, yesterday)


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#9377119 - 08/14/18 02:46 PM Re: Thoughts on Infinity Q50 (2014) - Recent test drive [Re: Mr.Bozack]
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 Originally Posted By: Mr.Bozack
So I'm guessing nobody on here has any first hand experience with this car?

Infinities aren't reliable? That's the first I have heard that! I see you own a e90 M3 so you can stand by your reliability statement. Do you ever drive the M3 in the winter? I don't imagine it to be that bad since it doesn't have gobs of torque.


I never understood this lack of torque nonsense. Ok so it needs to be wound out to 3900rpm to get peak torque that is just shy of 300 and is flat all the way till redline while building horsepower till redline. That motor is fucking awesome.

S4 gives you the sensation that it’s faster but it is not. It’s the torque that comes in sooner that is fooling you. I never drove it in winter but it’s capable for sure with a LSD it will be fine with a set of winter tires.
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#9377131 - 08/14/18 03:09 PM Re: Thoughts on Infinity Q50 (2014) - Recent test drive [Re: Hatorade]
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There is plenty or torque on the M3 - just to tap into it you gotta rev it up a fair bit (from my short test drive) and in daily driving situations it's nice to have it when you stab the throttle - my car has around 330 so I was let down that the M3 didn't have the same snap down low - I never got a chance to take it to redline to really experience the car unfortunately.

I'd prefer manual - but I know that is becoming more of a challenge and the Q50 is only auto. I just test drove the sport with tech. Tech has the steer by wire which I didn't really notice until I hit an onramp and wasn't sure if it was the run flat tires or the steer by wire but it wasn't as connected as the premium version I recently tested. This one didn't smell after being run hard...so that makes me think the other was burning oil.

I'm thinking the S4 I tested must have been doing the same thing since 4age speaks of his not smelling.

Rob you've been trying to sell that BMW for a while now...I haven't hear good reviews on the motor and I tested an auto with paddles and it felt numb but for entertainment send me some more info through PM.

The tech on the q50s was pretty neat but I don't have any of those features on my car so I don't feel like I need them on my next car - lane departure, auto cruise, auto breaking, 360 camera's - I'm sure my wife would benefit from most of those features but I see them as gimicks - if I were going on long road trips often than maybe I could see the benefis
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#9377259 - 08/14/18 06:56 PM Re: Thoughts on Infinity Q50 (2014) - Recent test drive [Re: Mr.Bozack]
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All this talk about torque, lol \:\)
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#9377339 - 08/14/18 09:59 PM Re: Thoughts on Infinity Q50 (2014) - Recent test drive [Re: LNXGUY]
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A quick search on the auto trader yields at least 20 cars around low $20s k. Pretty damn good value for a lot of car. I guess if you plan to keep it for a long time, deprecation isn't an issue.

I've always liked the Infiniti engine/exhaust sound....not sure what motor it has but my neighbor had one and he bitches and complain about how much gas it takes.


If you like it...go for it. Worst thing is you trade it for something else in a couple of years.

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#9377464 - 08/15/18 07:39 AM Re: Thoughts on Infinity Q50 (2014) - Recent test drive [Re: A2B-Lexus]
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A2B - Thanks for the input - yeah low 20s is what I'm looking at and you're right you get a lot of car for that money - AWD fancy, touch screens - not that I care much about the tech. The tightness of the steering was what impressed me most and the overall suspension. I didn't notice much difference between the sport and non sport in terms of suspension.

It's a 3.7 V6 making about 330 hp so gas can't be as bad as what I'm used to with my 20 year old V8. It also has a 7 speed which is a bit slow to react when punching it at HWY speeds but still adequate for most situations - likely I will never see track time so I don't need a track oriented car (M3).
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#9377493 - 08/15/18 08:19 AM Re: Thoughts on Infinity Q50 (2014) - Recent test drive [Re: 4age]
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 Originally Posted By: 4age
S4 shouldn't smell after a hard drive. Mine never did that.
That sc v6 is a solid motor. it's campaigned in continential/pirelli world challenge by apr and that motor is doing fantastic without even oil pan upgrades (baffling). the only thing to watch out for is longevity of the sport diff, as that is unknown. otherwise, that thing is robust as hell. mine was over rev'd by a certain someone on this board at mosport (money shift), and it is still good. I'd argue that the s4 is less running cost than an m3, as you don't have a diff that needs replacing or rod bearings that will need attention. Though no doubt, m3 is the better buy if you take care of it (read: the resale aspect). M3 is also dynamically the superior car. there is just no comparison.

of that list, surely, isf is the safest bet. sounds awesome, auto (sounds like you want auto), fun as hell. but ok, kinda small.

@Hator - there is NO WAY the m3 is the most reliable car on the list. did you miss the lexus? LOL??????????????????????????????????????????????????

Also, i'd personally avoid dct cars if you intend to keep it long. As for the bmw v8, talk to any service advisor for horror stories. makes for fun times.


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#9379410 - 08/17/18 04:35 PM Re: Thoughts on Infinity Q50 (2014) - Recent test drive [Re: Screamin Type ARGH!]
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The 3.7 litre Infiniti motor is pretty stout sometimes consume some oil but just regularly check it like the older Honda’s

Think about how many you see around - still lots
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#9379552 - 08/18/18 09:38 AM Re: Thoughts on Infinity Q50 (2014) - Recent test drive [Re: Mr.Bozack]
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I have some experience with a few of the cars on the list, daily driving a 2012 S4 for a year and a half, test drove the e90 M3 as that was the biggest contender when I was deciding.

M3 is more fun, this is just fact, RWD, V8, fat ass...it's the better overall car if this is a "fun" car. The S4 is the best daily driver on your list imo, this is not even close. The car is reliable, I drive 400km round trip for work weekly (where you at Raocorp?), it's a solid highway cruiser, the instant torque from the supercharger is the most utilitarian powertrain setup for a daily driver. Instant torque in any gear at low RPM's, falls flat on its face at high RPM's but nothing a stage 1 tune can't fix.

As far as it being cramped, I guess it makes sense coming from an e39 which is a much bigger car, but the interior of the Audi is also light years better than the competition, the only cramped part is the rear, sitting in the back sucks, but who cares unless you plan on being an uber. I am 6'0 and 190lbs and it's solid, I got plenty of room, i can't say the same for the Lexus IS.

As far as the infinti goes it's probably the most bang for the buck car, you will get the newest/lowest km similarly optioned out as the competition, but issue with them is they don't tend to age well and something about the brand/feel of the cars feels cheap to me. This is just opinion not fact, but that's the vibe I get from infinti as a brand. I am probably tainted because of their Nissan products which to me are probably bottom of the barrel so I am assuming that trickles up to Infiniti too.

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#9379569 - 08/18/18 11:22 AM Re: Thoughts on Infinity Q50 (2014) - Recent test drive [Re: Risky Business]
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Been keeping an eye on used S4s as the Lexus is as boring to drive as it is reliable.

Curious why the depreciation on them is so "bad" on the S4s. I guess I am use to seeing Honda depreciation. Been itching to drive something more entertaining.

I prefer S3 as I don't need that much space as we have the Acura Type R(DX) for that but they don't seem to depreciate as much.


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#9379711 - 08/18/18 08:15 PM Re: Thoughts on Infinity Q50 (2014) - Recent test drive [Re: A2B-Lexus]
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400kms? Pff, I laugh at 400kms/wk. I used to do 3x that. Thankfully I've transitioned to DT Toronto. Been DT since April. But thanks to the Ford gov't I may end up back in st cats in the next few months.

I'm not a baller so I just recently bought a Kia. I'm a hatchback guy for life so I bought a 2016 Forte5. I bought the sx with the turbo. It's a pretty cool car, I like it. Love the tech and I scored it for a great deal. I was going to buy a new Elantra GT sport tech. But the Elantra was gonna be about $38k. I found the Kia for almost half of that and it has 95% of what the Elantra did so I decided to buy used again. I really wanted some tech in my next vehicle and kia/Hyundai really pack it in.

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#9379727 - 08/18/18 08:58 PM Re: Thoughts on Infinity Q50 (2014) - Recent test drive [Re: Raocorp]
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Whats the budget here anyway? Fuck a used Euro time bomb. For under $35K you can get a brand new Civic Si, Accord Sport, VW GTI, WRX, etc. New car warranty, "engaging", etc. Personally, Id never even consider any of those cars on the list.
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#9379736 - 08/18/18 09:28 PM Re: Thoughts on Infinity Q50 (2014) - Recent test drive [Re: The Postman]
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My guess the OP's budget is low mid 20s.
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#9379780 - 08/19/18 07:45 AM Re: Thoughts on Infinity Q50 (2014) - Recent test drive [Re: A2B-Lexus]
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 Originally Posted By: A2B-Lexus
Been keeping an eye on used S4s as the Lexus is as boring to drive as it is reliable.

Curious why the depreciation on them is so "bad" on the S4s. I guess I am use to seeing Honda depreciation. Been itching to drive something more entertaining.

I prefer S3 as I don't need that much space as we have the Acura Type R(DX) for that but they don't seem to depreciate as much.



Are you asking why newer cars (S3) have depreciated less than older cars (S4) that recently had a new gen released?




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#9379781 - 08/19/18 07:52 AM Re: Thoughts on Infinity Q50 (2014) - Recent test drive [Re: Raocorp]
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400kms? Pff, I laugh at 400kms/wk. I used to do 3x that. Thankfully I've transitioned to DT Toronto. Been DT since April. But thanks to the Ford gov't I may end up back in st cats in the next few months.

I'm not a baller so I just recently bought a Kia. I'm a hatchback guy for life so I bought a 2016 Forte5. I bought the sx with the turbo. It's a pretty cool car, I like it. Love the tech and I scored it for a great deal. I was going to buy a new Elantra GT sport tech. But the Elantra was gonna be about $38k. I found the Kia for almost half of that and it has 95% of what the Elantra did so I decided to buy used again. I really wanted some tech in my next vehicle and kia/Hyundai really pack it in.


400km round trip

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#9379782 - 08/19/18 07:52 AM Re: Thoughts on Infinity Q50 (2014) - Recent test drive [Re: The Postman]
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 Originally Posted By: The Postman
Whats the budget here anyway? Fuck a used Euro time bomb. For under $35K you can get a brand new Civic Si, Accord Sport, VW GTI, WRX, etc. New car warranty, "engaging", etc. Personally, Id never even consider any of those cars on the list.


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#9379783 - 08/19/18 08:00 AM Re: Thoughts on Infinity Q50 (2014) - Recent test drive [Re: Risky Business]
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Registered: 11/05/99
Posts: 26894
Loc: Toronto, ON
 Originally Posted By: Raocorp
400kms? Pff, I laugh at 400kms/wk. I used to do 3x that. Thankfully I've transitioned to DT Toronto. Been DT since April. But thanks to the Ford gov't I may end up back in st cats in the next few months.

I'm not a baller so I just recently bought a Kia. I'm a hatchback guy for life so I bought a 2016 Forte5. I bought the sx with the turbo. It's a pretty cool car, I like it. Love the tech and I scored it for a great deal. I was going to buy a new Elantra GT sport tech. But the Elantra was gonna be about $38k. I found the Kia for almost half of that and it has 95% of what the Elantra did so I decided to buy used again. I really wanted some tech in my next vehicle and kia/Hyundai really pack it in.


Good luck with the Kia. I will never ever own a Korean car. It’s literally hot trash. The only reason why they sell is exactly what you said. They pack their products full of features into a mediocre package. This goes for all Korean made products, its their philosophy and its shit as a lot of times not all these so called features work well.

Been stuck in a pos Sedona for the past couple weeks and it’s one of the worse vehicles I have driven. Caravan is a much better van compared to this pos to give you an idea.

Postman: I just love how people that have never owned a German car are always the most opinionated.
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#9379794 - 08/19/18 09:15 AM Re: Thoughts on Infinity Q50 (2014) - Recent test drive [Re: A2B-Lexus]
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Registered: 03/24/06
Posts: 1186
Loc: Ontario
Hi guys, yeah trying to keep the budget in the low 20s, having an older truck (78 stepside) vintage sport bike (900f) and working from home makes it difficult to negotiate with my financial planner \:\)

I'm trying to test drive a TL with SH AWD with a 6 speed, I want to see if the tranmission feels like that of an older honda or is numb like the newer accord.

I'm glad to hear that the S4 has been reliable, the one I tested had some motor repair work done at the dealer, but I didn't get the full details. That and the burning oil smell where enough to turn me away from that car, but I agree the torque punch was there and I love the fact that it responds well to a tune.
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