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#9417805 - 10/15/18 07:58 AM Re: Got canned yesterday - Package question [Re: c2k]
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#9417894 - 10/15/18 09:03 AM Re: Got canned yesterday - Package question [Re: Big Tasty]
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Thanks guys,

C2K - not selling underwear anymore, that was something a did a long time ago. I made my first line localy but when I tried to find a manufacturing overseas for my next line it became very difficult - I spent 3 years searching for a manu - that would meet my minimums and deliver to my standards - often times after months invested the manufacture would stop responding to emails, in the end I didn't feel comfortable laying out 10K plus hoping that they get it right.
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#9428283 - 10/26/18 12:02 PM Re: Got canned yesterday - Package question [Re: Mr.Bozack]
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OK guys, finally can post the update.

I contacted Lior Samphiru - after a good friend recommended me to call them. I was able to have a 30 minute phone call to discuss my case and ask any questions...this was the first lawyer willing to do this - most want close to 500 to meet with you and develop a strategy.

He looked over the package and told me that is was fair - 49 weeks and I could start work anytime and still get everything. However he did advise me to negotiate up to 52 weeks and he gave me some points to include. So I took his advice and was able to negotiate up the entire year and it didn't cost me a cent.

It's a small win but the extra cash will go towards start up funds for the business.
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#9428311 - 10/26/18 12:19 PM Re: Got canned yesterday - Package question [Re: Mr.Bozack]
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Awesome news, glad to hear it's over for you.

I might have missed it somewhere, when did the offer go from 25 weeks to 49?

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#9428321 - 10/26/18 12:25 PM Re: Got canned yesterday - Package question [Re: Senor Eduardo_82]
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I screwed up with the way I was reading all of the lump sum payouts...basically ALL of the payouts equaled out to 49 weeks.
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#9428331 - 10/26/18 12:35 PM Re: Got canned yesterday - Package question [Re: Mr.Bozack]
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That makes more sense, the package you were being offered made no sense especially from a mega corp (which don't like bad press from employee terminations especiall), you presented the original package as if it was the equivalent of something some shady small business would do (my friend, can I offer you this MINT salvage title Jaguar? GREAT FAMILY CAR, ECONOMICAL).

Glad it all worked out.

Now invest in some reading classes

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#9428339 - 10/26/18 12:47 PM Re: Got canned yesterday - Package question [Re: Risky Business]
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#9428462 - 10/26/18 03:49 PM Re: Got canned yesterday - Package question [Re: Screamin Type ARGH!]
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Ha ha yes I didn't know WTF all the lump sums ment in the beginning, but either way I knew that you never accept the first offer and thanks for everyone's input on this matter - an extra few weeks of cash is better in my hands than theirs.

Risky I like the analogy of the Mint salvage car...the timing chains are making noise on my car now so I can relate.
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#9428815 - 10/27/18 11:47 AM Re: Got canned yesterday - Package question [Re: Mr.Bozack]
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Good to hear that things worked out.
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#9429507 - 10/29/18 07:01 AM Re: Got canned yesterday - Package question [Re: A2B-Lexus]
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Now that CSI:ON has closure on Bozack's situation ... I'll eventually post up, as I got Bozack'd awhile ago...

I can't speak to much of it, as I signed two NDAs - one just prior to joining, and a second one as a 'settlement' when I got sacked, which, didn't go as planned. The language on the second NDA was quite formal, something I've never seen before.

Got some other things going on in life, so it'll take awhile for me to summarize, and filter/black-out some details.

Regardless, the market for my skillset is ok, and I found a job 6 days later, albeit the drive is sooper fucked; so, I'm looking again.

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#9429513 - 10/29/18 07:06 AM Re: Got canned yesterday - Package question [Re: furball]
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The language in the NDA was "quite formal" opposed to what, ebonics?
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#9429548 - 10/29/18 08:00 AM Re: Got canned yesterday - Package question [Re: Risky Business]
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Furball glad to hear you landed on your feet quick.

Shieet if it was in ebonics - lol

For mine it didn't say - were giving you 49 weeks - it said we're giving you a lump sum here because we have to, and over here we have to give you this, and over here we'll give you 26 weeks - some shit like that.
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#9430183 - 10/29/18 03:59 PM Re: Got canned yesterday - Package question [Re: Mr.Bozack]
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Might as well let the cat out of the bag, got my letter last week (Happy fucking birthday right? ) Package is good, going to take some time and perhaps find a job I actually enjoy.
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#9430306 - 10/29/18 07:28 PM Re: Got canned yesterday - Package question [Re: LNXGUY]
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Sucks man. That's heartless!
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#9430366 - 10/29/18 09:08 PM Re: Got canned yesterday - Package question [Re: A2B-Lexus]
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Sorry to hear. Happy birthday though.
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#9430436 - 10/30/18 05:49 AM Re: Got canned yesterday - Package question [Re: Big Tasty]
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sorry to hear. it'll get better.
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#9430529 - 10/30/18 08:19 AM Re: Got canned yesterday - Package question [Re: c2k]
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What was the reason behind the letter? How long were you with the company?
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#9430896 - 10/30/18 11:25 AM Re: Got canned yesterday - Package question [Re: SuPeR-MaRiO]
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Shit man sorry to hear...these damn corporations!

Have you signed the papers yet? If not squeeze them cheap pricks for more.

Good luck with lining yourself up with enjoyable employment.
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#9431017 - 10/30/18 12:58 PM Re: Got canned yesterday - Package question [Re: SuPeR-MaRiO]
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 Originally Posted By: SuPeR-MaRiO
What was the reason behind the letter? How long were you with the company?


13 years. Entire team was outsourced.
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#9431031 - 10/30/18 01:11 PM Re: Got canned yesterday - Package question [Re: LNXGUY]
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WOW! Same thing happened to me, hopefully you get close to a full year or more
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#9431045 - 10/30/18 01:37 PM Re: Got canned yesterday - Package question [Re: Mr.Bozack]
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I got a full year + benefits etc. No complaints.
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#9431184 - 10/30/18 03:56 PM Re: Got canned yesterday - Package question [Re: LNXGUY]
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Nice! Do you know if they take the benefit premiums off of your severance? They offered to extend my benefits but I would have to pay so I passed - my wife has a good benefits plan.
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#9431455 - 10/31/18 07:42 AM Re: Got canned yesterday - Package question [Re: Mr.Bozack]
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 Originally Posted By: Mr.Bozack
Nice! Do you know if they take the benefit premiums off of your severance? They offered to extend my benefits but I would have to pay so I passed - my wife has a good benefits plan.


Yeah, the only thing that comes off is about $15 per pay period for dental, lol.
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#9431522 - 10/31/18 09:17 AM Re: Got canned yesterday - Package question [Re: LNXGUY]
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Ah that's not bad at all.

What industry is it that you are working in? ...Please say Cannabis lol
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#9431866 - 10/31/18 02:25 PM Re: Got canned yesterday - Package question [Re: Mr.Bozack]
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 Originally Posted By: Mr.Bozack
Ah that's not bad at all.

What industry is it that you are working in? ...Please say Cannabis lol


Definitely not cannabis, lol. Company has their hands in everything. Consulting/services, etc etc.
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#9432449 - 11/01/18 08:01 AM Re: Got canned yesterday - Package question [Re: LNXGUY]
Mr.Bozack Offline
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Yeah that was the same area I was in - One of Canada's largest IT consulting companies.
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#9432517 - 11/01/18 09:13 AM Re: Got canned yesterday - Package question [Re: Mr.Bozack]
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 Originally Posted By: Mr.Bozack
Yeah that was the same area I was in - One of Canada's largest IT consulting companies.


Hey, maybe we worked for the same company
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#9432578 - 11/01/18 10:13 AM Re: Got canned yesterday - Package question [Re: LNXGUY]
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lol
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#9432581 - 11/01/18 10:16 AM Re: Got canned yesterday - Package question [Re: phoenixrage]
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That would be hilarious. Probably worked side by side.
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#9432924 - 11/01/18 04:08 PM Re: Got canned yesterday - Package question [Re: Big Tasty]
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Wouldn't be suprised - the company I worked for boasts that they make apx $10B annually
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#9432993 - 11/01/18 05:44 PM Re: Got canned yesterday - Package question [Re: Mr.Bozack]
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 Originally Posted By: Mr.Bozack
Wouldn't be suprised - the company I worked for boasts that they make apx $10B annually


Earnings of 4B last year, revenue just over 41B. But hey, fire me so you can slim down your bid to the client I've been working for since 2009 you fucking cocksuckers
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#9433280 - 11/02/18 09:03 AM Re: Got canned yesterday - Package question [Re: LNXGUY]
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Preach brother! Fak these guys, time to become their competitors
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