#4363345 - 12/22/09 03:13 AM
Working out to promote weight loss, how's this routine?
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DropNotch
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Like the title says, I've finally found a place to workout using actual weights to add on some muscle to increase my calorie burning power. I have a mild lower back issue due to a work injury that tends to flair up from time to time so I decide to pretty much limit my workouts to upper body with the exception of light weight high rep squats, calve raises, and the quad lift thing until I feel comfortable doing more.
So here is the routine I found online that was setup and seems easiest to follow. I've done this routine twice now and it's taken me about an hour or so to complete.
Workout Sheet
Dumbbell Bench Press = four sets , 12-10-8-6 reps minute or so between Dumbbell Fly's = two sets, 12-12 reps Seated Dumbbell press = four sets, 12-10-8-6 reps side raises = two sets, 12-12 reps one arm Dumbbell rows = four sets, 12-10-8-6 reps Dumbbell pullovers = two sets, 12-12 reps Dumbbell Extensions = four sets, 12-10-8-6 reps Seated Dumbbell curls = four sets, 12-10-8-6 reps Standing Dumbbell curls = two sets, 12-12 reps
Squats = two sets 12-12 reps Shoulder Shrugs = three sets, 12-12-12 reps Calve raise = two sets, 12-12 reps Quad machine lift (weight plates)= four sets 12-12-12 reps
I've been using the heaviest weights that I can manage to keep proper form with. I've also added extra reps/sets when I have the strength.
Is there anything else I should add in? I've enjoyed doing this routine so far. I am going to be working out four days aweek, three in a row then one off, then work out one day, then off two (can only work out when at work). Of course I'm still doing cardio, stopped doing it everyday and set it to 6 days a week, 2.5 miles a night. Down to 260 pounds (15 pounds since last fitness post in october). So anyway let me know what you think.
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#4363465 - 12/22/09 07:15 AM
Re: Working out to promote weight loss, how's this routine?
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wolfsburg2
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That's all one workout? Fuck that.
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#4364424 - 12/22/09 12:01 PM
Re: Working out to promote weight loss, how's this routine?
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fART dUST
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weight loss is diet
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#4364624 - 12/22/09 01:03 PM
Re: Working out to promote weight loss, how's this routine?
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Prophet925
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Yes, weight is lost in the kitchen. You shouldn't have to lift differently just because you're trying to shed fat, IMO.
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#4364787 - 12/22/09 01:46 PM
Re: Working out to promote weight loss, how's this routine?
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LuckyRVA
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are all of those sets with relatively lightweight? b/c I would probably puke trying to lift heavy and do that many sets. it's way too much IMO.
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#4364904 - 12/22/09 02:11 PM
Re: Working out to promote weight loss, how's this routine?
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Silock
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That's way too much and a lot of it is completely unnecessary. Not working out your entire body because you are afraid of hurting your back is only going to keep throwing your body out of balance. Our bodies are amazing things. When one part isn't working right, some other muscle group will pick up the slack. Problem is, that other muscle group isn't really designed to be picking up that slack for a long period of time. The result is that your original problem will never get better, or the new muscle group will eventually become overloaded and unable to do what you're asking of it. Then you'll be proper fucked.
And you're doing this exact workout three days in a row and five days a week? Monumentally bad idea. When are your muscles going to grow? You're not giving them time to repair by working them out day after day.
Read some of the articles here to get you started: http://www.alwyncosgrove.com/Articles.html
If I were you, I'd be doing total-body workouts with high reps and light weight. I disagree that you don't need to change lifting style while trying to lose weight. I think you do. If you do full-body workouts with resistance, you'll be combining cardio and lifting, making a routine that will ramp up your fat burning by a lot.
Again, from Alwyn:
http://alwyncosgrove.blogspot.com/2009/12/adjusting-training-for-fat-loss.html
MONDAY, DECEMBER 21, 2009
Adjusting Training for Fat Loss Q: What do you think of the current expert recommendation that when training for fat loss - the training itself doesn't change - only the diet?
A: I don't think much of it. I know the "experts" you are speaking of who say that and I'm afraid I just don't agree. The underlying logic is that training for strength or muscle growth is the same regardless of your goal - and the sole reason for weight training during a diet is to maintain muscle.
At first glance that's pretty good advice. Until we dig further.
When you ask the experts how exactly they would adjust the diet -- you usually get a stock answer of keep protein the same to maintain muscle, keep fat at about the same and reduce the carbs.
Really? The only difference between a strength and mass program and a fat loss program is the amount of carbohydrate? In other words - a 24 year old rugby player trying to gain size will be on the exact same program as a 24 year old rugby player trying to drop excess fat, only the amount of bread and pasta he can eat is different?
Let me summarize - so the prescription for increased muscle mass/strength AND fat loss is for example heavy weights and lower reps. So a strength coach can simply write one program and just modify the diet without changing anything ??
Uh no.
Let's reverse the scenario -- That would mean that if a client used a program to get down to 9% bodyfat, and decided that they wanted to gain 20lbs of muscle - all we'd have to add is 3 or 4 bagels per day?
As usual this is an example of people who don't actually train people for a living. If a client hires me to get them bigger - the ENTIRE plan is different from a client who wants to lean out or drop a weight class. Training, nutrition, cardio and supplementation all change.
Training to increase size and training for fat loss will definitely have similarities - but if the desired goal is different - the training has to be different too. I don't believe in two people having the exact same program even if their goals are the same -- so I definitely don't agree with this "logic".
Fat loss and hypertrophy training templates are definitely going to be different.
-- AC
I'd do something like this, especially if you're going to be working out every day:
Day 1: Barbell + plates (10/25/35/45 -- if you can go higher than 135 lbs total... more power to you)
All of this is 1 set, work your way up to 8 10 Deadlifts 10 Bent Over Rows 10 Hang Clean 10 Squats 10 Push Press 10 Alternating Lunges
Rest 2 minutes, repeat.
Day 2: Bodyweight circuits
60 Jumping Jacks 20 Spiderman pushups 10 Alternating Lunges 20 Spiderman Climbs 60 seconds wall squat 60 seconds Plank 10 Burpees 50 High Knees
Rest 1 minute, do 3 sets
Does it look as pretty? Nope. Are people going to be admiring your workout routine in the gym? Nope. In fact, you'll get some funny-ass looks. But it works. It absolutely works, and that's what's important.
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#4365255 - 12/22/09 03:50 PM
Re: Working out to promote weight loss, how's this routine?
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Prophet925
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In regards to how to lift during fat loss, I lied. I certainly do not lift the same while cutting vs while bulking. But for my goals, my lifting routine stays heavy and intense year round despite variations in rest times, volume, etc.
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#4365842 - 12/22/09 06:23 PM
Re: Working out to promote weight loss, how's this routine?
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Silock
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Thanks for the link to the articles Drew! I am in the middle of switching things up a bit and they are good reading for me Much appreciated sexy pants
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#4373379 - 12/26/09 08:32 AM
Re: Working out to promote weight loss, how's this routine?
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Silock
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NP. Sounds like you enjoyed it!
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