#9485708 - 01/13/19 10:27 PM
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interested to see how his race is. It's short enough distance where you kind of want to gas it, but long enough you need to pace yourself.
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#9489964 - 01/18/19 11:31 AM
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Haven't run in a week due to shitty weather and really icy paths. Getting stircrazy 
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#9491817 - 01/21/19 12:48 PM
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interested to see how his race is. It's short enough distance where you kind of want to gas it, but long enough you need to pace yourself.
Yeah, they offered a 40, but I felt like it was my warm-up. Everyone said the 40 course doesn't offer anything besides "more".
I'm still not sure my approach here. Part of me says it's a warm-up for the season, rather than doiing a 20 trail run of my own. Part of me says it's a race, and thus I should push at least a little. Part of me says it's short enough I can blow up big and hobble out.
I've tended to enjoy my races so far. I don't tend to lay it on the line that much.
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#9493237 - 01/23/19 12:02 AM
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Went to a physical therapist today since I have been battling through some EXCRUCIATING upper back pain in my runs. Unresolved by ibuprofen, naproxen, tylenol, lidocaine patches, or baclofen. Turns out it is a mix of poor posture, my shoulders are really curved in, as well as a large loss of muscle on my left side (rotator cuff area). This has lead to overcompensating in my trap and some muscle that goes 45° towards my neck. He gave me some strength bands, said no more push-ups or anything that will curve my shoulders in, and a litany of foam roller exercises. It will take weeks to get better, really hoping I can fix it soon though.
A lot of this probably explains my 185 to 167 weight loss, lots of muscle went away I figure. Hope everyone else is hanging in there.
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#9494413 - 01/24/19 11:30 AM
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Bummer man.
I'm a bit confused by the nature of it though. Too much imbalance towards chest? or towards back.
I hope the plan works and you're back on it. Rooting for you to hit 50.
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#9494654 - 01/24/19 02:28 PM
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Yikes, hope you figure it out :scared:
I'm still in limp mode over here, with an unknown return date to even easy jogging. Visiting a sports.medicine place in a week or so, I need a prognosis on my Achilles. I have not been hit with any shells yet walk with a limp.
Even biking seems affected marginally, esp out of the saddle stuff. Swimming my off foot cramps lol because I don't use the problem foot for walls
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#9494800 - 01/24/19 03:49 PM
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Damn stickz, that achilles is still killing you?
Do you do a lot of drop? no drop?
I found my altras (zero drop) aggravate my achilles/calf muscles if I do more than 50% of my miles in them. That said, my feet prefer their footbox, so I mix them up.
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#9494963 - 01/24/19 06:30 PM
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damn, sorry to hear about all these nagging injuries... 
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#9506165 - 02/10/19 02:19 PM
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Thanks for all the well wishes guys, been a few weeks since I checked in here.
Bummer man.
I'm a bit confused by the nature of it though. Too much imbalance towards chest? or towards back.
I hope the plan works and you're back on it. Rooting for you to hit 50.
Too much shoulders forward. I have been doing the resitance exercises the PT gave me and rolling out my back a lot and it has helped quite a bit. I haven't had a drop to my knees back stabbing pain since, though still some discomfort.
That leads me to my next theories of why I think it is happening. First, I tend to run on the balls of my feet, and a lot of my miles are on pavement. As my shoes wear I get a lot more impact on my upper body and I believe that has really added to the pain generation. As a result, I switched to running in Hokas, and I adjusted my stride to run like what I call "an old man posture" with a heel to toe roll. Adjusting your stride after 30 years is tough, takes a lot of focus, but I believe it has helped a lot too.
My other theory is stress related pain. So my job at work is actually working with chronic pain patients. We work on reducing their use of opioids for chronic pain, because a lot of the pain is generated due to mental factors, not physical ailments. I didn't even realize I think a lot of it is happening to me. The stress of my job, the patients I deal with, raising 3 kids, trying to keep my marriage tight (no issues here really, just time with my wife is what I mean), and training for the 50k all really is getting me tense. I didn't even realize it until one of the MDs I work with was telling me to think about this injury, and how it has never happened before and I have been running all my life. It really changed my whole mindset. So I try to work on mindfullness a lot now, and identify when things are stressing me and when I start getting tight in my upper body. I don't expect to change your opinion about chronic pain in this one post, but I truly believe that pain is a product of environmental factors a majority of the time.
Anyway, I am doing well. I ran 11 miles today and only had a twinge of discomfort. Hope all is going well for everyone else. I am secretly Strava watching you all!
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#9515261 - 02/21/19 07:20 PM
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I crossed the double digit threshold for the first time since September, jfc. this seems like a long road back to ultra-ready.
That said, 10 today was easier than 8 last week.
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#9517809 - 02/25/19 02:27 PM
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#9518807 - 02/26/19 01:34 PM
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That's pretty awesome.
Good to see this thread is still alive. Wondering for you guys who know Hoka well enough... what would be the ideal neutral shoe to pick up? I have a coupon for a free pair that I need to use by end of month.
I usually rock the NB 840s. Thinking of doing Cliftons, same size, in a wide.
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#9522144 - 03/03/19 02:32 PM
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#9522586 - 03/04/19 11:38 AM
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So for you more experienced distance folks, what's your maintenance mileage looking like? I'm hovering around 40-45 mpw with an occasional 50+ mile week, but thinking in April/May I need to ramp up a bit more before my training cycle kicks in...
Since I still cycle commute I go by time. But I'm absolutely sure you could finish a 50 miler if you shifted your runs toward the terrain you'd run.
The only week I've ever hit 50 mpw was if I raced an ultra. I think peak training was 40? and another 2 hours of cycling. So maybe equate that to 12 more? And I do hike 1-2x a month with a infant on my back.
Now I will admit I got my ass kicked by a 50, but I still was upper 1/3 of the pack.
So lots of rambling, but if you can mange 50-60mpw you'll do fine on a 50 miler. Find that forever pace, practice the type or terrain and break it into pieces. It's just an easy 10km, followed by another, followed by another...
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#9522615 - 03/04/19 11:59 AM
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Great job guys. That 50K sounded brutal lol. Makes me feel like a slacker despite a few good runs over the week. 
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#9523071 - 03/05/19 06:39 AM
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So for you more experienced distance folks, what's your maintenance mileage looking like? I'm hovering around 40-45 mpw with an occasional 50+ mile week, but thinking in April/May I need to ramp up a bit more before my training cycle kicks in...
Since I still cycle commute I go by time. But I'm absolutely sure you could finish a 50 miler if you shifted your runs toward the terrain you'd run. The only week I've ever hit 50 mpw was if I raced an ultra. I think peak training was 40? and another 2 hours of cycling. So maybe equate that to 12 more? And I do hike 1-2x a month with a infant on my back. Now I will admit I got my ass kicked by a 50, but I still was upper 1/3 of the pack. So lots of rambling, but if you can mange 50-60mpw you'll do fine on a 50 miler. Find that forever pace, practice the type or terrain and break it into pieces. It's just an easy 10km, followed by another, followed by another... 
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