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#9379799 - 08/19/18 09:33 AM Re: Thoughts on Infinity Q50 (2014) - Recent test drive [Re: Risky Business (he/him)]
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Been keeping an eye on used S4s as the Lexus is as boring to drive as it is reliable.

Curious why the depreciation on them is so "bad" on the S4s. I guess I am use to seeing Honda depreciation. Been itching to drive something more entertaining.

I prefer S3 as I don't need that much space as we have the Acura Type R(DX) for that but they don't seem to depreciate as much.



Are you asking why newer cars (S3) have depreciated less than older cars (S4) that recently had a new gen released?





LMAO....you are right. Newer current model S3 vs. previous gen S4.


Can't keep up anymore...they kinda all look so similar.



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#9380055 - 08/19/18 10:50 PM Re: Thoughts on Infinity Q50 (2014) - Recent test drive [Re: Hatorade]
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Good luck with the Kia. I will never ever own a Korean car. It’s literally hot trash. The only reason why they sell is exactly what you said. They pack their products full of features into a mediocre package. This goes for all Korean made products, its their philosophy and its shit as a lot of times not all these so called features work well.



Honestly, I hope you are wrong. I've never owned a Korean car so this is a first for me. It is what it is I guess. The Suzuki didn't turn out well for me, but really hoping this one will. If not, I don't know. I'll just drive beaters I guess then

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400km round trip


Wow that's a lot of kms. Is this long term?

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#9380110 - 08/20/18 08:06 AM Re: Thoughts on Infinity Q50 (2014) - Recent test drive [Re: Raocorp]
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WTF OP this is csi, why the hell are you looking at cheap ass cars when you're able to afford a private jet?!?!

i recommend a Honda Jet of course... but G6 is nice too doe.
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#9380174 - 08/20/18 09:56 AM Re: Thoughts on Infinity Q50 (2014) - Recent test drive [Re: Screamin Type ARGH!]
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I've owned a E9x M3 and G37 (with the same driveline as the Q50) at the same time. Both solid cars. S4 was short listed and removed due to not being "special enough" for what I was looking for when I bought the M3, but I'd have compared it to the G37 if prices were in line when I was buying.

Does a few $ here or there make or break things? Just get what you want, I think it's silly to compare all of these premium cars as if one will have the running costs of a Civic and the other having the costs of a Ferrari.

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#9380413 - 08/20/18 02:57 PM Re: Thoughts on Infinity Q50 (2014) - Recent test drive [Re: 87ZCSi]
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Screamin - Yeah I know I'm not up to the CSI baller standards - I gotta buy more weed stocks with my savings to get there.

87 - no a few bucks is expected but thousands every year will become a headache. Jap vs German debate - but I won't start that.

Was the M3 much more noticeable of a difference to the G? I thought the steer in on the G was impressive - compared to what I have been driving.
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#9380490 - 08/20/18 04:23 PM Re: Thoughts on Infinity Q50 (2014) - Recent test drive [Re: Mr.Bozack]
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Which weed stocks?

I won't bother with the Japanese vs German either, it's not worth it.

Was the M3 noticeable difference vs the G? Best way to answer this is with a question, are you fucking kidding me? I got the G for sitting in traffic/loaning out/road trips. I had it from Nov 2014 @ 181kms to its death in Chicago November 2016 when it hit a cab (I wasn't driving) @ 259kms. Yes, 78000 in 2 yrs and I had no daily commute. It was the village car, everyone had it for a while for whatever reason. It served a purpose, was reliable (one seized caliper and one PS pump), comfortable, fast, thirsty, and ate up the kms. The M3 is harder to own (not a garage queen but I care more about it) but much more rewarding to drive. It doesn't eat brakes, or tires, or throttle actuators. I replaced the rod bearings myself. I've had it almost 5 yrs and put on 40000kms with ZERO issue, it's seen track time, road trips (pre G) and my son and I take it for twisty road drives every Saturday morning to let his mom sleep. M3 has about 140000kms on it now. It's no track car in stock form.

I call tell you this, I've never researched and mapped out a fun drive route for the G37x.

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#9380546 - 08/20/18 06:19 PM Re: Thoughts on Infinity Q50 (2014) - Recent test drive [Re: 87ZCSi]
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I’m not even sure why the M3 is being cross shopped against the other cars. It’s not even in the same caliber of car FFS.

M3 is super engaging to drive and the V8 is simply amazing. None of those cars even come close to it. NA V8 with instant response and awesome power band. If you can’t recog that then you simply don’t care for an engaging vehicle and just want something that has power get the S4.
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#9380783 - 08/21/18 07:47 AM Re: Thoughts on Infinity Q50 (2014) - Recent test drive [Re: Hatorade]
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87 Yeah I didn't need to read that - lol I know the M3 is the car to get but I'm trying to be practical as I need a car for all seasons, I'm sure the M3 would be OK in winter but it would be a shame to subject the car to those elements, being that the car is becoming a collector I would probably be overly obsessive about it's care and cosmetics and always entertain the thought of trying to sell it.

Another part of me thinks I should just get a 4runner and be done with driving like a jackass...but that sounds so damn boring...yet practical.

Weed stocks I'm currently watching

Bleave, iAnthus, fvpharma, and Aleafia.
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#9380806 - 08/21/18 08:53 AM Re: Thoughts on Infinity Q50 (2014) - Recent test drive [Re: Mr.Bozack]
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#9380831 - 08/21/18 09:29 AM Re: Thoughts on Infinity Q50 (2014) - Recent test drive [Re: Risky Business (he/him)]
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If the M3 and whatever else are the same money, why not just get the M3, use it, and enjoy yourself more? These aren't exotics and are daily driven everywhere. Are you aware I also have a 4Runner? It's nice for what it is, but if I didn't have the M3 as well I'd be rid of it.
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#9380855 - 08/21/18 10:18 AM Re: Thoughts on Infinity Q50 (2014) - Recent test drive [Re: 87ZCSi]
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Ha ha get out you got a 4 runner also - damn what a coincidence there lol. Have you taken it offroad?

I know the M3 is the better car hands down but they are about 10K more than a Q50 - plus the M3 has much more of a gamble factor when purchasing due to the nature of the car and the guys that own them...I know if I had one I'd be tempted to rev it out often to get the satisfaction of the sound/performance.

Risky you don't like the other stocks eh? They seem to have more upside being that they are still so new.
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#9380890 - 08/21/18 10:59 AM Re: Thoughts on Infinity Q50 (2014) - Recent test drive [Re: Mr.Bozack]
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Just make sure you buy one with maintenance records.
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#9380896 - 08/21/18 11:04 AM Re: Thoughts on Infinity Q50 (2014) - Recent test drive [Re: Mr.Bozack]
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Yep, I've had it offroad, that's how it lost its running boards when we high centered it. Everyone was impressed at how capable it was. It took some damage though, no need to add to it.

I'd think you can get an older M3 for Q50 money quite easily. Just ensure it was owned by someone who could afford to maintain it and budget some for throttle actuators and rod bearings if not yet addressed. You can get one piece rotors now so the price of a brake job just plummeted as well. E90 M3's with just over 100k are high 20's in Toronto, that's a steal of a car.

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#9380952 - 08/21/18 12:07 PM Re: Thoughts on Infinity Q50 (2014) - Recent test drive [Re: 87ZCSi]
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Oh yeah Hator for sure - and stay away from sketch dealerships and get a PPI - I've been searching for a while now \:\)

87 - that would be my fear, take it offroad to test it's capabilities and frig it up.

Looks like I missed out on the Blevf weed stock - just checked it and it's up 15.69% this morning. FSD pharma is also up 7%
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#9380960 - 08/21/18 12:16 PM Re: Thoughts on Infinity Q50 (2014) - Recent test drive [Re: Mr.Bozack]
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They're too old to not be at "sketch dealerships", or private sales.

My 4R has 550000kms on it, whatever. It brought us home and continues to take a beating.

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#9380970 - 08/21/18 12:29 PM Re: Thoughts on Infinity Q50 (2014) - Recent test drive [Re: 87ZCSi]
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M3 -> on it's way from Beaverton OR to Bend OR for a bike ride
4R -> Moab, UT bike trip
G37x -> Crashed in Chicago





I would definitely buy any of these 3 again!

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#9381015 - 08/21/18 01:31 PM Re: Thoughts on Infinity Q50 (2014) - Recent test drive [Re: 87ZCSi]
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Ha shit man no kidding good taste in vehicles \:\)

We have the same roof top carrier on our rav4 (v6 sport of course lol)

550KMs on the Runner? goddamn that makes me want to get one - I've had 3 in my sights and they keep getting sold - definitely a high demand vehicle.

I just had my expansion tank go on the 540 - it must know I'm looking to ditch it. Thanks for the input guys and 87 thanks for the picts - i remember you posting about that crash when it happened - shitty deal - but it's just stuff at the end of the day.

Those 3 cars are the one on my short list so that's pretty damn funny - I know the runner is not in the same category but I like the thought of getting off road and taking my boys fishing. I'm currently waiting to see if a finance deal will fall through on one I'm hoping to get a chance at.
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#9381019 - 08/21/18 01:40 PM Re: Thoughts on Infinity Q50 (2014) - Recent test drive [Re: Mr.Bozack]
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Oh yeah Hator for sure - and stay away from sketch dealerships and get a PPI - I've been searching for a while now \:\)

87 - that would be my fear, take it offroad to test it's capabilities and frig it up.

Looks like I missed out on the Blevf weed stock - just checked it and it's up 15.69% this morning. FSD pharma is also up 7%


The whole market is up, any stock you look at is going to have big gains today. Insider trading is rampant, lol

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#9381027 - 08/21/18 01:51 PM Re: Thoughts on Infinity Q50 (2014) - Recent test drive [Re: Risky Business (he/him)]
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Yeah I know i also read that large institutions may finally be getting on board after constellations investment not to mention Molson/Coors and Henekien also jumping on the bandwagon.
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#9383815 - 08/27/18 08:00 AM Re: Thoughts on Infinity Q50 (2014) - Recent test drive [Re: Mr.Bozack]
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A bit of a follow up of the g37 vs q50.

I test drove a g37s (paddle) and the steering is not a tight as the Q, by a large margin - steering felt a touch loose - this could be due to age and KMs but I was hoping it would be similar but not even close. It did feel a bit less refined all around but it's an older generation so I'm not surprised.
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#9384190 - 08/27/18 05:27 PM Re: Thoughts on Infinity Q50 (2014) - Recent test drive [Re: Mr.Bozack]
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Yeah the Q50 is nicer, same engine and transmission though. I drove the Q50 but ended up with 4Runner for utility as there was too much overlap with M3 otherwise.
I paid 14k for my G37x after taxes, I was happy.

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#9384325 - 08/27/18 10:12 PM Re: Thoughts on Infinity Q50 (2014) - Recent test drive [Re: 87ZCSi]
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Yeah 14 is a decent price - the example I was looking at had 3-4 k in claims and was still 16 or 17 grand with 134KM.

Yeah I had a line on a 4 runner last week but it sold before I could check it out.
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#9384330 - 08/27/18 10:25 PM Re: Thoughts on Infinity Q50 (2014) - Recent test drive [Re: Mr.Bozack]
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While 3-4k isn't a lot in damages, I would rather have a car without anything on Carfax....lots of Infinitis around...just wait for the right one.
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#9385085 - 08/29/18 08:22 AM Re: Thoughts on Infinity Q50 (2014) - Recent test drive [Re: A2B-Lexus]
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Yup not in a rush, I'm starting to lean towards holding onto my car a bit longer - just fixed the expansion tank and still taking care of it...this is all research for when I'm ready I'll know what I want.
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#9385148 - 08/29/18 09:37 AM Re: Thoughts on Infinity Q50 (2014) - Recent test drive [Re: A2B-Lexus]
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 Originally Posted By: A2B-Lexus
While 3-4k isn't a lot in damages, I would rather have a car without anything on Carfax....lots of Infinitis around...just wait for the right one.


yeah, lots of brown and asian IT guys must be offloading.... \:D

loving the CF intake on the s4 (dem power feelz and the s/c whine sound). i have a deal in place to do a stage 1 tune (reflash) at Pfaff right now, though i'm doing my best to NOT mod the car that much - it would bring it to an even 400hp and 350 ftlbs.

best mod though by far is the rear sway bar, holy nimble batman. (sticky tires and lowered nice too). this car is great so far as a DD, even in the dead of winter.


Edited by Screamin DC2R (08/29/18 09:43 AM)
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#9385235 - 08/29/18 10:43 AM Re: Thoughts on Infinity Q50 (2014) - Recent test drive [Re: Screamin Type ARGH!]
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Yeah 400 hp would be great with an AWD set up - can you do down pipes and exhaust? Wondering how much more that would get you?
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#9385247 - 08/29/18 10:49 AM Re: Thoughts on Infinity Q50 (2014) - Recent test drive [Re: Screamin Type ARGH!]
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 Originally Posted By: Screamin DC2R
 Originally Posted By: A2B-Lexus
While 3-4k isn't a lot in damages, I would rather have a car without anything on Carfax....lots of Infinitis around...just wait for the right one.


yeah, lots of brown and asian IT guys must be offloading.... \:D

loving the CF intake on the s4 (dem power feelz and the s/c whine sound). i have a deal in place to do a stage 1 tune (reflash) at Pfaff right now, though i'm doing my best to NOT mod the car that much - it would bring it to an even 400hp and 350 ftlbs.

best mod though by far is the rear sway bar, holy nimble batman. (sticky tires and lowered nice too). this car is great so far as a DD, even in the dead of winter.


Which tune, how much?

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#9385437 - 08/29/18 12:23 PM Re: Thoughts on Infinity Q50 (2014) - Recent test drive [Re: Risky Business (he/him)]
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 Originally Posted By: Risky Business
 Originally Posted By: Screamin DC2R
 Originally Posted By: A2B-Lexus
While 3-4k isn't a lot in damages, I would rather have a car without anything on Carfax....lots of Infinitis around...just wait for the right one.


yeah, lots of brown and asian IT guys must be offloading.... \:D

loving the CF intake on the s4 (dem power feelz and the s/c whine sound). i have a deal in place to do a stage 1 tune (reflash) at Pfaff right now, though i'm doing my best to NOT mod the car that much - it would bring it to an even 400hp and 350 ftlbs.

best mod though by far is the rear sway bar, holy nimble batman. (sticky tires and lowered nice too). this car is great so far as a DD, even in the dead of winter.


Which tune, how much?


Unitronic stage 1 is just under $1150+hst but they said they'll see what they can do. i THINK that includes dyno tune but not sure. voids any oem/aftermarket warranty. apparently on audi ECU's it tracks if you've flashed then unflashed it.

other options are:
http://www.independenttuning.ca (i may email them)

http://eurocharged.ca/product-category/audi/a4-s4-rs4-a4-allroad/a4-s4-a4-allroad-b8b8-5/ (waiting on reply, prices don't include dyno run/tune).

and Precision at hwy 7 and keele, not sure if i'll contact them or not.

tempted to do pulley too and that's even more power. but apparently at a certain point you have to reflash the DSG too? not gonna bother then.

maybe if we both book, try and work paki deal


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#9385443 - 08/29/18 12:25 PM Re: Thoughts on Infinity Q50 (2014) - Recent test drive [Re: Mr.Bozack]
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Yeah 400 hp would be great with an AWD set up - can you do down pipes and exhaust? Wondering how much more that would get you?


every mod you do to the s4 bumps the power noticeably it seems

pfaff tuning has an AWE exh for s4 for sale, like $2500...hnnngggg
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#9385784 - 08/29/18 04:47 PM Re: Thoughts on Infinity Q50 (2014) - Recent test drive [Re: Screamin Type ARGH!]
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4age did the tune at pfaff and then went back to detune lol. Said it drove like shit after. Yes more power but throttle response was fucked up. Like they cut the resulation in half so it was harder to modulate.
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#9385799 - 08/29/18 05:06 PM Re: Thoughts on Infinity Q50 (2014) - Recent test drive [Re: Hatorade]
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Holy sh+t 2,500 for an exhaust...damn - gone are the days of the 300 DC ceramic coated exhausts lol.
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#9385806 - 08/29/18 05:08 PM Re: Thoughts on Infinity Q50 (2014) - Recent test drive [Re: Screamin Type ARGH!]
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While 3-4k isn't a lot in damages, I would rather have a car without anything on Carfax....lots of Infinitis around...just wait for the right one.


yeah, lots of brown and asian IT guys must be offloading.... \:D

loving the CF intake on the s4 (dem power feelz and the s/c whine sound). i have a deal in place to do a stage 1 tune (reflash) at Pfaff right now, though i'm doing my best to NOT mod the car that much - it would bring it to an even 400hp and 350 ftlbs.

best mod though by far is the rear sway bar, holy nimble batman. (sticky tires and lowered nice too). this car is great so far as a DD, even in the dead of winter.


Which tune, how much?


Unitronic stage 1 is just under $1150+hst but they said they'll see what they can do. i THINK that includes dyno tune but not sure. voids any oem/aftermarket warranty. apparently on audi ECU's it tracks if you've flashed then unflashed it.

other options are:
http://www.independenttuning.ca (i may email them)

http://eurocharged.ca/product-category/audi/a4-s4-rs4-a4-allroad/a4-s4-a4-allroad-b8b8-5/ (waiting on reply, prices don't include dyno run/tune).

and Precision at hwy 7 and keele, not sure if i'll contact them or not.

tempted to do pulley too and that's even more power. but apparently at a certain point you have to reflash the DSG too? not gonna bother then.

maybe if we both book, try and work paki deal


I am asking because I'd be interested in a GIAC stage 1 tune, unitronic and the rest I will have to pass up on, they are like on/off switch tunes, not very refined as per 4age who had all of them.

As far as your car, I am not sure if you can even tune your car, yours is a 2013 right? I think you might be fucked because 2013's use B8 transmissions if auto, so if you do the engine tune you can't do an actual DSG tune, that's available only on 2014+ DSG cars. Older autos you can only tune the engine and not tranny, apparently that doesn't work well at all. Something worth looking into.

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#9386056 - 08/29/18 10:39 PM Re: Thoughts on Infinity Q50 (2014) - Recent test drive [Re: Risky Business (he/him)]
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ah ok. for sure, thanks.

hator...YES exactly what i was worried about. ugh...always something with it. basically i don't care fo the extra juice if there is any negative effect on DD driving feels.
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#9386202 - 08/30/18 09:05 AM Re: Thoughts on Infinity Q50 (2014) - Recent test drive [Re: Screamin Type ARGH!]
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At least you can get a refund if not satisfied at pfaff. Just make sure you can lol
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#9386915 - 08/30/18 05:21 PM Re: Thoughts on Infinity Q50 (2014) - Recent test drive [Re: Hatorade]
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