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#21240 - 09/10/02 08:00 PM Re: Greddy turbo owners unite!
Turbo__E Offline
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My setup
93 Civic Coupe
JDM B18C
Greddy TD O5 18G Kit
Trust IC
Crane HI 6 Ignition
2 1/2" exhaust

first post.:)
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#21241 - 09/11/02 11:27 AM Re: Greddy turbo owners unite!
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How much did you guys generally spend on setting these things up? And How many miles is too many miles too late to put on a kit?
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#21242 - 09/12/02 06:40 PM Re: Greddy turbo owners unite!
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me? in excess of $10,000:p
and a whole lotta....
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#21243 - 09/17/02 09:28 PM Re: Greddy turbo owners unite!
mebhii Offline
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Registered: 09/17/02
Posts: 39
Loc: dfw, texas
2000 Si b16a2
240whp/ 14.2 quarter (8psi boost,street tires, and a ton of wheelspin, not tuned on dyno)
greddy turbo kit rebuilt to 20g and clipped 10deg. on exhaust
type31 intercooler
type s bov
profec b boost controller
evo exhaust (no cat)
engine is race balanced and blueprinted by automotive machine and supply (ft worth,tx)
bored to 1.8 liters
eagle rods, endyne pistons (thermal coated) 9:1 compression
golden eagle sleeves
cometic head gasket
ported and polished head, 7angle valve job
endyne titanium valves, springs, retainers
exhaust ports thermal coated
hondata intake gasket
aem cam gears
aem fuel rail
aem fpr
walbro 225lph fuel pump
rc eng 310 injectors (too small)
spoon thermostat
cluthmasters dual friction clutch
***following are not installed:
crane hi-6 ignition and coil
hondata stage 4
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#21244 - 09/20/02 01:13 PM Re: Greddy turbo owners unite!
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Upper ring lands!! We don't need no stinkin ring lands

My mishap last winter. 8lbs w/ bluebox.
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#21245 - 09/22/02 08:47 AM Re: Greddy turbo owners unite! SAFE FOR DAILY DR
immortaly2k Offline
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Not to have the above happen, what is recommend for making a Greddy Kit " Safe For Daily Driving" ? MSD / Cold Plugs / Water Injection / compression reduction / turbo timer / etc.

Also, I have heard from a couple of people that their stock 8psi setup piked to 12+ psi during a race. Can this be controled via loosening a BOV to leak at X psi?

And what is the best BOV for LOW LOW psi blow by to assure no more then X psi goes through to your throttle body?
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#21246 - 09/22/02 11:36 AM Re: Greddy turbo owners unite!
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I have a '00 civic ex with a greddy kit for a '95 civic and a greddy type-s bov.
Immortaly2k~I don't think that a loose bov could cause boost spike, It would probably cause you to loose boost. The bov doesn't control how much boost you run, it just releases the excess boost between shifts so you don't get compressor surge.
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#21247 - 09/22/02 08:33 PM Re: Greddy turbo owners unite!
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Ya man.. I know the use of a BOV. Some BOV's leak at X amount of boost, which is a good thing if you have a Internally Gated turbo like a (14b/16g/18g/20g/etc), which "might" have a bit to small of a flap which "may" promote spikes "boost creep" under certain circumstance.

As a safe guard, one could use a blow off valve which leaks at X amount of boost, lets say 8psi, loosen up the nut on an adjustable BOV, to minimize the threat of excess boost from entering the Throttle Body and causing damage.

example: The 2nd Gen Mitsu BOV leaks at 12-14 psi (you could set your boost control to 30psi in a 2nd Gen Eclipse and your TB would still only see 12-14 no matter). Were as, the 1st Gen Mitsu BOV would not leak until 18-20 psi (crushed).

Just was wondering which BOV is preferred.
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#21248 - 09/22/02 10:35 PM Re: Greddy turbo owners unite!
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Oh sorry man, I misunderstood you. Didn't mean to insult your intelligence or anything.
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#21249 - 09/27/02 11:46 AM Re: Greddy turbo owners unite! SAFE FOR DAILY DR
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To prevent the above from happening, upgrade your fuel system. I think the blue box is reliable at the stock boost level of 5 psi or so. You can raise the boost a little but then you are taking a risk. My engine has survived the past year and nearly 20,000 miles now. I have run UPTO 8 psi, but I have also heard detonation too. Until I can find a way to run bigger injectors, the boost is staying down for now.
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#21250 - 09/28/02 01:56 PM Re: Greddy turbo owners unite! SAFE FOR DAILY DR
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TurboSi@RPI: I thought the NON-IC kit is good for 5.5psi but once you include the Type 31 or 24 FMIC one could run 8psi safely with the BLUE BOX. Is this not correct? Thanks!
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#21251 - 09/28/02 03:17 PM Re: Greddy turbo owners unite! SAFE FOR DAILY DR
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Sometimes it runs fine at 8 psi, sometimes it may start to detonate around 7500-8000 rpm. I'm in the northeast and when it gets cold out, forget it. I have to leave the boost controller off or else it breaks up at even 6 psi. I've heard that if you move the intake air temperature sensor into the charge pipe (after the intercooler, before the throttle body) that the engine should run better. After a descent run, you can really feel a difference between the intake tube on the turbo, and the charge pipe after the intercooler so I would believe it.

But running 8 psi with the intercooler seems to have alot to do with the weather. It seemed alright this summer, but its starting to cool off up here and I think its time to turn the boost down. I'm thinking about trying the new SMC and pick up some 450 cc injectors off a DSM this winter. In the mean time I'm gonna take it easy cuz I really did beat the heck out of the motor this past year.
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07 Galaxy Gray Si Sedan
06 Winning Blue Mazda3 GT Hatch - Traded after 2 oil changes
2000 EBP Si - STOLEN
Greddy Turbo - 13.8 @105mph

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#21252 - 09/28/02 10:28 PM Re: Greddy turbo owners unite! SAFE FOR DAILY DR
JAMinCiViC Offline
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Registered: 02/25/00
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Loc: San Diego, now Iwakuni, JAPAN
Here's the scenario that happened when I blew the pistons.
91octane
45 degrees out
hi boost was set at 8 psi.
I've been beating on the motor and I guess it was payback!!

I didn't hear detonation cause I was in the "ZonE Yo" It could've spiked but I was paying attention to that damn typeR that just got a 1.5 car head start.

Anyways. I've picked up a few more parts now. I'm going to try the GSR cams and some stiffer valve springs(HondaSaver.com) I installed the oil cooler and JG manifold. Hopefully I can get this thing strapped on to a dyno and get some #'s!!! Also.. working on traction. Kaaz LSD and z10's will be on next week
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#21253 - 09/29/02 12:52 AM Re: Greddy turbo owners unite!
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Registered: 11/30/01
Posts: 137
Loc: Orlando, FL, USA
99 Civic Si
Greddy Turbo
Greddy Type 24v Intercooler
HKS SSQ BOV
Hondata 3b + datalogging
RC 440cc injectors
ACT xtreme pp/hd disc
Fidanza flywheel
Thermal 3" turbo exhaust
Testpipe from testpipe.com
The motor is otherwise stock for now

Tuned to 227hp at 7.5psi and 261hp/195tq at 10.3 psi...
Dyno chart here

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#21254 - 09/29/02 07:42 PM Re: Greddy turbo owners unite! SAFE FOR DAILY DR
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Registered: 08/05/02
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TurboSi@RPI: Yaa.. I am thinking of just running the EFI PMS & 450cc on the car instead of using the BLUE BOX. I run 750cc on my DSM with a EFI PMS also. Nice piggyback unit.

JAMinCiViC: Nice upgrades.. Look forward to the #'s
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#21255 - 10/02/02 09:28 PM Re: Greddy turbo owners unite!
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Well, it's on it's way... My months of thought has brought me to the Greddy community. Greddy Kit + Small FMIC + Gauges + J&S + Dual + Timer + Type S BOV + Clutch ($4000 plunge) are on their way, arriving mid-next week.

Was going to read over http://www.turbocivicsi.com for some tips prior to installation.

Any other tid-bits of what to DO and NOT to DO during installation would be greatly appreciated.
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#21256 - 10/06/02 04:55 PM Re: Greddy turbo owners unite!
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Take your time with the install. When we installed mine we left some of the hose clamps loose and didn't tighten the oil feed line too well to the turbo. That is what you get from going at 3:00pm to 4:30 AM. So take your time and walk through the install steps after everything is set and installed. But Cristos' directions on turbocivicsi.com work really well. Keep in mind if you have the OEM Fogs there is some trimming issues that GReddy doesn't tell you about.
Jon
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#21257 - 10/08/02 03:12 PM Re: Greddy turbo owners unite!
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Thanks for the advise.. The kit will be arriving this week but I will need to do the Clutch first and that takes damn 8+ hours to do!! YUK! Oh well.. Looks like a Friday night through Sunday job including turbo, FMIC, Blue Box, Gauges, J&S and clutch installation.
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#21258 - 10/08/02 05:20 PM Re: Greddy turbo owners unite!
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Yeah a clutch can take some time, especially with no power tools. Very good thought to do it before the turbo goes on. Keep in mind you have a 450-500 mile break in on the clutch. Stay off it, cuz it is tempting.
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#21259 - 10/08/02 10:08 PM Re: Greddy turbo owners unite!
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Lucky I have a complete set up power / non-power tools.. I think the worst doing the GSR last week was the damn pin locking the shift linkage in. Holy crap! You need the exact punch to get that damn thing out of there.. Second was dropping the half shafts. We found that taking both side out instead of only the passenger side and rotation the motor worked much quicker so I think the Si will go a bit ez'r then the Teg. Thank GOD! Will be doing the work this weekend.. I think I may do a Friday thru Sunday install or wait until the next weekend. Want to have the Flywheel resurfaced and crap before pushing it all back together.. Was also thinking about LSD while the tranny is on the bench but you know, for a daily driver, non-race car under 5-7 psi, I think it would be overkill! The Talon is the race car and has welded center diff.
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#21260 - 10/10/02 11:09 PM Re: Greddy turbo owners unite!
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My cousin who's a turbo freak said that no shaving should be required of the block when installing the turbo. As it has been written on turbocivicsi.com a part of the block where the label B16A2 is written needs to be shaved to fit the 90 degree intake pipe.

Pretty much we're keepin a small gap between the 90 degree intake pip and the turbo intake and using that gap to somewhat reroute the pipe a little.

Imagine if you feel if you melted your motor, went back to honda after removing your turbo and cried. All they'd do is laugh at your face because there is a part of the block shaved where it used to save B16A2 now probably would say, B16A...
=)

Oh I also joined the greddy community Today. =)
Except, still have a lot of mods to work on. For example 3 inch downpipe, proper catalytic converter to support the 3inch catback from RND.

450 CC DSM injectors, except Turborex@aol.com isn't doing the cleaning until December =(
Anyone know where I can pick up a cheap P28 ECU? =)

Need to purchase an ACT 6 pad clutch, but where?! =)

Greddy owners, help me, help you, help me, help you!

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#21261 - 10/12/02 12:36 PM Re: Greddy turbo owners unite!
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Please provide insight as to where you got the 3" downpipe for the GReddy, are you still using the gooseneck downpipe adapter?
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#21262 - 10/19/02 10:38 PM Re: Greddy turbo owners unite!
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#21263 - 10/29/02 02:24 AM Re: Greddy turbo owners unite!
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I got a greddy turbo on GSR, 245.7whp and 216tq @ 9psi.
Standalone(speedpro).

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#21264 - 11/01/02 02:17 PM Re: Greddy turbo owners unite!
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I have the kit at 9psi.... about one month ago I cracked a ring landing on No. 4. The car RAN AWESOME, ran a 13.5@106 before it blew...

Now Im looking for a forged piston that wouldn't be too noisy so that I can rebuild the motor..
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#21265 - 11/07/02 03:02 PM Re: Greddy turbo owners unite!
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Loc: Was Chicago, il...but now its ...
im running an 18G greddy turbo kit on my 2000 civic si
******motor*****
18G greddy kit
31" greddy intercooler
greddy blo off valve
fluidyne radiator
flex a lite fan
vortech FMU--NO more blue box
missing link
270 injectors
ngk plugs and wires
aem pulleys
aem fuel filter
**im running stock boost which is about 5.5-6 psi..runs good but no Dyno numbers yet..hope to get that this week/weekend


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#21266 - 11/07/02 10:26 PM Re: Greddy turbo owners unite!
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how about some pics of these cars guys.
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#21267 - 11/09/02 02:19 AM Re: Greddy turbo owners unite!
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i will have around 4500-5000 grand come spring and i am looking into a reliable form of forced induction. suspension and tires are taken care of. what will i need to go along with the greddy kit. i was thinking of hondata s200 with 550 injectors. will i have enough to do a mild building of the block. i also have an exhaust. how much am i looking at to get started with everything i need. thanks for your time.
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#21268 - 11/10/02 08:52 AM Re: Greddy turbo owners unite!
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Did someone ask for pics
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#21269 - 11/12/02 01:29 AM Re: Greddy turbo owners unite!
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help me please
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#21270 - 11/12/02 03:20 PM Re: Greddy turbo owners unite!
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$5000 should be able to get you the kit, intercooler, BOV, clutch, and the basic hondata setup. Maybe 1 or 2 gauges depending on what brand you get, new/used, etc. If you get the hondata in there and tuned you should be all set for 8 psi. Other things to consider are a boost controller ($50-$550) and a turbo timer (most are around $100).
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#21271 - 11/12/02 05:36 PM Re: Greddy turbo owners unite!
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#21272 - 11/12/02 10:37 PM Re: Greddy turbo owners unite!
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on 8psi is that looking like 220whp or around there? and my short term goal is mid 13's, do you think id be able to achieve that with an above average driver on good conditions and good track.
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#21273 - 11/13/02 11:45 AM Re: Greddy turbo owners unite!
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8 psi tuned with a Hondata should get around 220 whp, give or take. That should plenty to get you into the mid 13's. I went 13.8 with the blue box at 8 psi, still running the stock cat and Kumho 712 tires.
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#21274 - 11/13/02 11:02 PM Re: Greddy turbo owners unite!
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I am running the Greddy turbo on my 99' si, with the 5zigen fireball cat-back, that I just installed today, it sounds great. I haven't gotten my intercooler yet, but it is on the way along with an SMC. Don't know what kind of numbers i can expect from it though.
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